Lighten up and have more fun!

pdgs

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Hi folks, new guy on the block..sort of.

I'm just wondering how many of you sport fisherman/women have begun to lighten up your tackle as you become better fisherman?
 

mommicked

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Re: Lighten up and have more fun!

I learned to freshwater fish w 8lb test and still use it today the most, also 6 lb on light action rods. I do use 10 and twelve fishing deep w heavyer weights and around trees and rocks w tougher rods. If I fish for bigger fish like Catfish or Stripers I might go bigger but do enjoy catching large fish on lighter lines and rods. It's just more fun to use lighter tackle fresh or salt and need/use the drag to play them instead of horsin
 

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my earliest fishing memories date back over 50 years when I my grandfather took me out in his homemade boat .... over the passing of time gear has changed but the lessons learned have stood the test of time .... hopefully my 4 year old grandson will one day be able to say the same

Jim
 

Roadrager50

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Re: Lighten up and have more fun!

Yes I use light gear as well. You have to remember with the advent of new line designs,you can get away with cheating so to speak. I use Braided line on my freshwater reels but I use #30 pound saltwater Trilene on my ocean rigs. I have caught some real whales on my ocean rigs. So I have learned to use what was taught to me over the years like JEBar stated and just expand on what you know. I also believe it does not hurt to ask questions. I have learned that like boaters most fisherman will give some advice all you have to do is ask.

Good Fishing
 

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I am a fan of light gear. More fun!
 

catfishcarl99

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ya i mainly catfish. lake here has no blues:mad: so im stuck mainly channel fishing but theres some good ones and good fighters. 5000 acre lake and there abundant from 2-6 lbs and lots of nice 8-14ones too. i used to use big heavy rods and big spinning reels. after a few years i went to med uglys with ming yang cl-40's and abu 5000's i still use an ifga 30lb line so i wont break off in structure and all but the lighter rods and reels makes a better time. im not out there to leave a bunch of hooks in fish so the line stays. kind of like me and squirrell hunting. my buddie says .22 only. i use a single 20 youth model NEF. he says no sport. i say i like to eat squirrell. and on the dead run a .22 is useless. the 20 brings them down. if there sitting or close i aim 4" to the side.;)

and while lighter line and rods are fun playing the fish to long builds up acids in thier blood which can cause a fatal imbalance. so while i like to fight em too i do keep it short as possible so if there 8-10 or more they can be released and have a better chance of survival. i like to let bigger fish go. theres plenty of smaller ones for dinner.

Lactic Acidis a natural by-product of functioning muscle tissue. When fish have normal blood oxygen levels, their muscles can function aerobically with very little lactic acid produced. When the supply of oxygen in their blood is depleted, more and more lactic acid is produced and they may experience numerous metabolic abnormalities. This condition is further worsened by the hypoxemia resulting from a prolonged fight in water low in dissolved oxygen, or from long periods of air exposure while the fish is handled and photographed.
 

pdgs

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Re: Lighten up and have more fun!

Thanks everyone, you all make some very good points. catfishcarl99 I absolutely agree with your analysis. If the gear is too light you do end up fighting the fish longer and often contribute to it's death rather than just tiring it out. Unfortunately, knowing the difference is a skill that is only aquired over time.

When I take clients out I have a hard time convincing them that the best tasting fish is one that is brought to the boat quickly. I also stress the fact the the decision to keep or release is done before the fish is removed from the water.

Because it's hard to convince them, I don't put ultra-light gear on the boat and I use reels with at least a 5:1 retrieve ratio. My go to rigs are G-Loomis rods and Shimano Calcutta's to help overcome the mental resistance. This seems to work pretty well in overcomming the desire to use lighter gear and gets the fish to the boat fairly quick.

Thanks again to all.
 

dingbat

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Re: Lighten up and have more fun!

You can tell an anglers experience level by the strength of their tackle. You can tell how much money they have by the weight.

An experienced angler will land a fish quicker than someone with a lower level of experience no matter what strength tackle is used.
 

pdgs

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Re: Lighten up and have more fun!

You can tell an anglers experience level by the strength of their tackle. You can tell how much money they have by the weight.

An experienced angler will land a fish quicker than someone with a lower level of experience no matter what strength tackle is used.

LOL, good analogies. I don't allow folks to use their own rigs. The reasons are too numerous to list. You've nailed a couple of them.
 

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You mean it's not any fun to troll for Crappie with a 3/0 Penn Senator, 50 lb. test, and a roller tip boat pole???:confused:
 

pdgs

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You mean it's not any fun to troll for Crappie with a 3/0 Penn Senator, 50 lb. test, and a roller tip boat pole???:confused:

Only if the lure is a drift sock for 100 ton vessel.:facepalm: I'm so ashamed of that response.. LOL..
 

jigngrub

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Only if the lure is a drift sock for 100 ton vessel.:facepalm: I'm so ashamed of that response.. LOL..

Well then, how about this catfish:
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On this rod and reel?
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On a 5' UL rod and 1000 size spinning reel with 6 lb. test and a light wire hook 1/16 oz. jig.
You can see the catfish slime on the line above the jig.
 

pdgs

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Re: Lighten up and have more fun!

Sweet!! Nice catchin on the ultra light. I was thinking nice job or nice work but neither applies when fishin.
 

dingbat

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I was thinking nice job or nice work but neither applies when fishin.
Trying convincing a Tournament angler on day 2 of a 3-day tournament that fishing is not work. You will probably get hit with an empty bottle of Acetaminophen. :D:D
 

pdgs

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Trying convincing a Tournament angler on day 2 of a 3-day tournament that fishing is not work. You will probably get hit with an empty bottle of Acetaminophen. :D:D

LOL, you've got a good point there. I've never had any desire to fish the circuits.
 

catfishcarl99

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LOL, you've got a good point there. I've never had any desire to fish the circuits.



me neither. fishin is fun. thats the way it will stay. NO hurries. my boat goes 28mph. fast enough for me. its caught up to 166 channel cats this season. couldnt ask for more.
 

catfishcarl99

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Re: Lighten up and have more fun!

Thanks everyone, you all make some very good points. catfishcarl99 I absolutely agree with your analysis. If the gear is too light you do end up fighting the fish longer and often contribute to it's death rather than just tiring it out.



sad shortness of the fight. i just try to catch a bunch to make up for it lol. 52 last two trips out. 28 wed 23 tonight. biggest today was only 6lbs 14. wed was a 10lb 8.
 

pdgs

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sad shortness of the fight. i just try to catch a bunch to make up for it lol. 52 last two trips out. 28 wed 23 tonight. biggest today was only 6lbs 14. wed was a 10lb 8.

That's quite a haul. I agree, I try to educate my clients. I tell them up front that they have a choice, catch and release or catch and keep to eat. If they're not going to eat it then don't keep it. The pictures will tell the story either way. I explain to them that if they intend to keep the fish they should bring it in as quickly as possible for the best taste. I had one gent tell me, "But I won't know if I want to keep it until I see it" to which I responded "Exactly my point". His response to that was simply "Ahh, I get it".

However, see what's in my downrigger.. This is me fishin by myself for Steelies...

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LOL, you've got a good point there. I've never had any desire to fish the circuits.

I don't fish the circuits. Local civic and club-sponsored tournaments are huge fund raising events around here. These tournaments are a way to get out, have some fun comparing your skills with your peers and maybe win some money and fame in the process.

Our fishing club holds several tournaments a years. The top three places in this years Spring Striper tournament split over $150K in prize money. First place in the fall Striper tournament was good for $32k. We placed 4th in that tournament and took home $8K. That is not bad for a days fishing.

Our surf fishing team won the Mid-Atlantic Surf fishing championship 3 years in a row and placed second in the other 2 years we competed. The money is good, but being publically recognized as one of the top surf fisherman on the East Coast is worth more than the money.

The winners of this year's White Marlin tournament took home over $1M in prize money for a 3-day tournament.
 

pdgs

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Dingbat, sounds like it's really been a lot of fun for you. I'm just the opposite. I like my privacy (cherrish it actually). I know I can catch fish if I want but it really doesn't matter if I do or not. When I've got clients onboard it's all about making their poles dance and putting smiles on their faces. In my book that's a famous moment. Sometimes it's even good for getting your check at the resturant picked up or your fuel bill paid out of the blue.
 
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