Locating property boundaries

[dolluper]

Re: Locating property boundaries

Ifin your getting a surveyor ask them for a quote to do a Fence line they do that cheap around here 2-300 ...if you had it surveyed before same company sometimes does it for free....but that could be a northern thing.....plus be carefull if you do find the pins sometimes they are noted!! on surveys as being so many inches for feet to the exact line I found that out up at the lake when putting the right of way road in ....owner of land the right of way goes over didn't want it a millmetre off what a crud she is

 

[jonesg]

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The monuments are the property line. .

No, surveyor monuments are brass plaques, a round disk set in concrete with the state emblem. Usually found set into the sidewalk. Surveyors take a bead from that with the tripod set over it and sighted vertically down to the center mark. Monuments are set on public land, not private property.
Don't be surprised if there isn't a legal monument within 1/4 mile of your property.

People have been known to build house extentions on neighbors property by accident, to save $500-700.

I have a freind who does survey freelance work on weekends, his gripe is clients who won't pay when the results don't please them.
I say don't give them the survey results until check is in hand.

 

[Nandy]

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With the help of my Dad and the plat I was able to find all 3 pins. The 4th pin was moved when Bellsouth did an excavation but this is at the front of the house where it was very easy to locate where it is supposed to be. It is a straight line up front with the sidewalk marking the line to follow. Knowing where the other front marker was it was just a matter of measuring the stated distance. I used the plat to find the state monuments. I did the exercise of measuring the know good pin to make sure I was doing it right. I then used the measured distance stated on the plat to find the property line from the sides of the house, I laid some markers there to use it later to find the angle at which I should shot the line to the rear of the property. Once I got that I measured to the rear of the property and the mark where my measurements indicated the pin was at... We were around 3 inches from the right pin but about a feet off the second. It was not too bad. Before I used the plat I was digging with half arse measurements but I was till pretty close.
Anyway, the HOA told me I have to submit my fence for approval before start installing it.... I mean, I have been talking to them for over a week about it and they just now mentioned....It could take up to a month.... I hate this house...

Thanks everyone!!!!

 

[bigdee]

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With the help of my Dad and the plat I was able to find all 3 pins. The 4th pin was moved when Bellsouth did an excavation but this is at the front of the house where it was very easy to locate where it is supposed to be. It is a straight line up front with the sidewalk marking the line to follow. Knowing where the other front marker was it was just a matter of measuring the stated distance. I used the plat to find the state monuments. I did the exercise of measuring the know good pin to make sure I was doing it right. I then used the measured distance stated on the plat to find the property line from the sides of the house, I laid some markers there to use it later to find the angle at which I should shot the line to the rear of the property. Once I got that I measured to the rear of the property and the mark where my measurements indicated the pin was at... We were around 3 inches from the right pin but about a feet off the second. It was not too bad. Before I used the plat I was digging with half arse measurements but I was till pretty close.
Anyway, the HOA told me I have to submit my fence for approval before start installing it.... I mean, I have been talking to them for over a week about it and they just now mentioned....It could take up to a month.... I hate this house...

Thanks everyone!!!!

Congrats on using a little innovation to save some hard earned money

 

[mommicked]

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Nandy,some HOAs require you to have the property surveyed before they let you build a fence,some dont.also if you have a plat of your subdivision you can check the distances to adjoining property corners to check what you have found and the missing corner in the front if your neighbors dont mind!Ive heard a guy built a nice, expensive, cedar privacy fence on his property w/o notifiying his HOA and they made him remove it!HOA rules should be read carefully before buying a house that has them.they can be bizzare,no flags or flagpoles,keep your garage door closed at all times.need their OK to paint your house or cut down a tree!A snobby nieghborhood near me wont allow you to park a truck in your driveway! it must be parked in the garage!I got my old 4x4 covered in mud and slowly cruised the nieghborhood waving at the residents as I passed by while mud fell off everywhere, after reading about the truck restriction in the newspaper!!another HOA asked a WWII vet to remove his American flag because it might offend his nieghbors!!He told them to go *$%^# themselves and refused to remove it.they took legal action!he eventually sold his house and moved to a more sensible subdivision

 

[Tim Frank]

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another HOA asked a WWII vet to remove his American flag because it might offend his nieghbors!!He told them to go *$%^# themselves and refused to remove it.they took legal action!he eventually sold his house and moved to a more sensible subdivision

http://soitgoesinshreveport.blogspot.com/2009/12/col-van-barfoot-raised-his-american.html

 

[Nandy]

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Nandy,some HOAs require you to have the property surveyed before they let you build a fence,some dont.also if you have a plat of your subdivision you can check the distances to adjoining property corners to check what you have found and the missing corner in the front if your neighbors dont mind!Ive heard a guy built a nice, expensive, cedar privacy fence on his property w/o notifiying his HOA and they made him remove it!HOA rules should be read carefully before buying a house that has them.they can be bizzare,no flags or flagpoles,keep your garage door closed at all times.need their OK to paint your house or cut down a tree!A snobby nieghborhood near me wont allow you to park a truck in your driveway! it must be parked in the garage!I got my old 4x4 covered in mud and slowly cruised the nieghborhood waving at the residents as I passed by while mud fell off everywhere, after reading about the truck restriction in the newspaper!!another HOA asked a WWII vet to remove his American flag because it might offend his nieghbors!!He told them to go *$%^# themselves and refused to remove it.they took legal action!he eventually sold his house and moved to a more sensible subdivision

I had read their rules when I bought the house many years ago. I remembered the fence requirements but forgot I had to do the submission. They fence is the same fence everyone else had so they really didn't have a reason to make me take it down other that just because which they are not past that. They do have the parking rule, you can't park in the greens or the road. You can park your car in your driveway but can't stay there longer that 72 hours. HOA's have a purpose and I could deal with their rules but now my lifestyle has changed and these rules are not compatible. I will sell/rent that house as soon as the marker allows me.
I did used my plat to find the monuments as I mentioned earlier.

 

[eastont]

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Here in rural eastern Ontario, property lines are rarely an issue. That is until some bozo, me, contacts the township to see what the bylaws are about space to leave between property line and building.
So I get out my survey and start to do the measuring, I know of 1 steel spike, and something comes up funny. Then I knock on my neighbours door and tell him what's up and he gets out his survey and we measure from his steel spike, and ..........his survey says he's 12 feet over where my survey says the line is.

So now I'm not sure how to proceed, because I want to erect a 20x24 steel building right at the limit I'm allowed. I'm afraid we could get into some weird legal crap. Neither of us really care, we cut the grass along the telegraph pole lines......and that's me cutting about 5' of his lawn...according to his survey.

Somebody made a big mistake back in the 50's when these were done.

 

[OldePharte]

Re: Locating property boundaries

Here in rural eastern Ontario, property lines are rarely an issue. That is until some bozo, me, contacts the township to see what the bylaws are about space to leave between property line and building.
So I get out my survey and start to do the measuring, I know of 1 steel spike, and something comes up funny. Then I knock on my neighbours door and tell him what's up and he gets out his survey and we measure from his steel spike, and ..........his survey says he's 12 feet over where my survey says the line is.

So now I'm not sure how to proceed, because I want to erect a 20x24 steel building right at the limit I'm allowed. I'm afraid we could get into some weird legal crap. Neither of us really care, we cut the grass along the telegraph pole lines......and that's me cutting about 5' of his lawn...according to his survey.

Somebody made a big mistake back in the 50's when these were done.

I know how that goes. When our lake area neighbors got into a Pi$$ing match over boundaries we found that not only was the county GIS off by 25 feet in some areas, but the original plat showed a neighbors road-side length as 275 feet but it scaled out to 225 feet. And yes, there are several of us who still have subdivision plats. Each original homeowner had one upon purchase; some were nice enough to pass them on with the property.