Love, Necessity and Pride

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Trooper82

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Wonderful! Felt like. I was right there with you in all that sticky mess:)
 

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Whose the scruffy looking nerf herder ya got narrating this little production of your's? He may have been overpaid unless paid in fermented hops. And that might be part of the problem.....:cool:
At 10:20 explosive volcano eruption of foam is right, that cavity oughta be nice & full.........

Excellent work! I like the video perspective. Troops close, but it was almost 1st person perspective & I was doing the foaming. :rolleyes:

Great work. Thanks!
 

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Uhmmm, some serious slide rule manipulations need to be miscombobulated to decrease the eruption velocities of the white lava erupting from the nether regions below the bassassin's plywood level staging area. This will increase the volume of resources in the silver receptacles containing the lava ingredients and significantly reduce the cleanup efforts of the film crew. That's just the opinion of a Dumb Okie.:)
 

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GT1M, I don't post much on your rebuild but I do watch and read your progress for a few reasons. First I do like your boat and I also had a Glasstream HydroBass boat much like the one you are rebuilding. Second I'm doing something a lot smaller is scale and watch how your coming along for pointers. Third I like your workmanship and attention to details. With that said, your foaming efforts looked neat! I will be doing that in the next few months...I hope. Question, did your estimates follow the actual amounts you used with the foam? Just wondering so I know how to do the same estimations myself. Great job and great videos. I know lots of others will certainly learn from your efforts to post things like that...
 

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Uhmmm, some serious slide rule manipulations need to be miscombobulated to decrease the eruption velocities of the white lava erupting from the nether regions below the bassassin's plywood level staging area. This will increase the volume of resources in the silver receptacles containing the lava ingredients and significantly reduce the cleanup efforts of the film crew. That's just the opinion of a Dumb Okie.

All the while I was thinking to myself that I should have contacted my favorite Okie to help me do some calcumalating of the orifice capacities to better insure less mess...:facepalm:;)

Whose the scruffy looking nerf herder ya got narrating this little production of your's? He may have been overpaid unless paid in fermented hops. And that might be part of the problem.....:cool:

At 10:20 explosive volcano eruption of foam is right, that cavity oughta be nice & full.........

Excellent work! I like the video perspective. Troops close, but it was almost 1st person perspective & I was doing the foaming. :rolleyes:

Great work. Thanks!

LOL! yep that scruffy nerf herder was paid in full with a good, hot shower, some cold frosties and a nice grilled steak dinner with fresh corn on the cob and a salad...

Wonderful! Felt like. I was right there with you in all that sticky mess

Thanks Troop, The entire time I was doing this part of the project, I could almost hear the entire Iboats community cheering me on and it was actually kind of fun and a pretty cool learning experience...:rolleyes:

GT1M, I don't post much on your rebuild but I do watch and read your progress for a few reasons. First I do like your boat and I also had a Glasstream HydroBass boat much like the one you are rebuilding. Second I'm doing something a lot smaller is scale and watch how your coming along for pointers. Third I like your workmanship and attention to details. With that said, your foaming efforts looked neat! I will be doing that in the next few months...I hope. Question, did your estimates follow the actual amounts you used with the foam? Just wondering so I know how to do the same estimations myself. Great job and great videos. I know lots of others will certainly learn from your efforts to post things like that...

Thanks gm,
I really appreciate the kudos...
My actual estimate for the foam amount is more like what I want to try and achieve and how much can I actually stuff in the finished product...let me explain...
I am hoping to do as close to a full 10 gallons of mixed product in an attempt to get approximately the fully loaded boat weight worth of floatation...my best estimate is that the boat has a maximum loaded weight of about 2200-2400 pounds...that really is a best guess from the limited amount of info I have been able to research for this particular boat...it had no build plates on it when I got it, and very little is available on the net...
With that in mind a full 10 gallon kit should theoretically yield 40 cubic feet of foam, which should provide about 60 lbs. of floatation per cubic foot, or about 2400 lbs. of floatation.
Now I know there are many things in the construction of a boat that offset the need for so much floatation, but to paraphrase an Iboats member, I consider overkill just about right...
Even if I don't get it all in there, I should have enough of an overage margin to provide plenty of floatation in case of the unforeseen...
So to sort of answer your question, I have made some rudimentary calculations on where I am going to use pour foam, and I have come to the conclusion that I should have pretty close to enough cavities to get close to using the full 10 gallons...but if I only get 6-8 in there, I should still be way ahead of the weight vs. floatation game...
 

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Nice video... Enjoyed the footage and the music.

Looks a long, tough, messy job.. Huge milestone to have behind you!!! Congrats...
 

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Nice work Gt!..that GoPro is really neat too....now thats "posting pics so we can see what you see" :D
 

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Finally made it home to watch your video . I knew it was gunna be good when it started out with some L Zep ! :cool:
Nice up tempo on the guitar solo break .. Have you removed all the foam from your drill yet after the volcano ? :rolleyes:
All in all a very informative and entertaining video .
Thanks for putting that together !
Btw , I need to check out the GP down loading editor . Which model GP do you have ?
 

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Finally made it home to watch your video . I knew it was gunna be good when it started out with some L Zep ! :cool:
Nice up tempo on the guitar solo break .. Have you removed all the foam from your drill yet after the volcano ? :rolleyes:
All in all a very informative and entertaining video .
Thanks for putting that together !
Btw , I need to check out the GP down loading editor . Which model GP do you have ?

Yeah good thing that stuff doesn't stick to plastic too much once its fully cured...cleaned up good enough for the beating I give it...
I have the GP Hero3 Silver edition...the GP editor download they provide is free and should work with any GP camera...at least they don't mention anything about it not being compatible with any model...it is actually a fairly easy program to work with and with a little practice, you get the hang of it pretty quick...plus its FREE!:)
I will warn you that uploading to YouTube is long and excruciatingly painful to wait for and hope your computer doesn't have a hiccup in the process, or you will have to start over...
Another tip is to keep the videos as short as possible...if I would have realized it would work better/Faster? I would have done it in at least two parts...

Nice work Gt!..that GoPro is really neat too....now thats "posting pics so we can see what you see" :D

Thanks zool, I really enjoyed throwing that together and the GoPro is the cat's meow for good quality video capture...

Nice video... Enjoyed the footage and the music.

Looks a long, tough, messy job.. Huge milestone to have behind you!!! Congrats...

Thanks Patrick,
Glad to hear the vid was enjoyable...hopefully they don't make me remove the soundtrack due to copyright laws...I read in the YouTube rules that if you don't use the video commercially, to make money, then it should be OK, except that whoever is affiliated with the music, is allowed to put ads in/on it...? Whatever, its alright by me, just so long as I get to keep it original...:cool:
and, while it was a bit messy...:rolleyes:...it really wasn't that bad...just had to get over the first time jitters, just like glassing for the first few times...once you get used to it, it goes smooth...sort of...
 

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Great video, Gus. This will take the guessing out of the equation for many. Reminded me of when I did mine. No matter how nerdified I thought I had been about my calculations, they never were perfect. Like you, either ran little short or had a major eruption. Either way, isn't it a nice feeling to be done & pucked in? With our weather, your smellin' that splash, aren't ya? Each day gets us closer. Great music-Zep, Disturbed, Marilyn...perfect!! Lisa
 

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Whoa that foam is a tough job, and here I thought cutting foam board was tough. I think she will stay afloat just fine.
 

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Looks top shelf to me, I have been watching your build all along and sure like what I see. I will need to do the same thing you just showed in the springtime, not quite as much foam but still my glass boat is 16 feet long, just not as deep under the sole as yours. Thanks for taking the time to show us how you did it. It doesn't seem like you get much time to mix and pour the two parts, seemed like the video was a bit fast forwarding through the process. How long would you guess you have from mixing the two parts till the time it is no longer pour-able?
You will also have some great documentation if/when you ever decide to sell the boat. Nothing but thumbs up from Michigan, where we just received 6 inches of that white stuff. That's on top of the 16 inches we already have on the ground.
 

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Great video, Gus. This will take the guessing out of the equation for many. Reminded me of when I did mine. No matter how nerdified I thought I had been about my calculations, they never were perfect. Like you, either ran little short or had a major eruption. Either way, isn't it a nice feeling to be done & pucked in? With our weather, your smellin' that splash, aren't ya? Each day gets us closer. Great music-Zep, Disturbed, Marilyn...perfect!! Lisa

Thanks Lisa!
Yeah, it definitely feels awesome to be over that hurdle...now I can actually concentrate on moving forward...;)

Whoa that foam is a tough job, and here I thought cutting foam board was tough. I think she will stay afloat just fine.

Thanks H2O bro!
It really wasn't that tough, just a lot of running back and forth when its a one man show...:)

Looks top shelf to me, I have been watching your build all along and sure like what I see. I will need to do the same thing you just showed in the springtime, not quite as much foam but still my glass boat is 16 feet long, just not as deep under the sole as yours. Thanks for taking the time to show us how you did it. It doesn't seem like you get much time to mix and pour the two parts, seemed like the video was a bit fast forwarding through the process. How long would you guess you have from mixing the two parts till the time it is no longer pour-able?
You will also have some great documentation if/when you ever decide to sell the boat. Nothing but thumbs up from Michigan, where we just received 6 inches of that white stuff. That's on top of the 16 inches we already have on the ground.

Thanks greenbush!
Yes Sir, the video was definitely fast forwarded {some of the scenes I sped up 2-4 times normal speed** throughout the majority of the final cut, and the scenes were cut as short as possible...I ended up with almost 3-1/2 hours of recorded footage and the job itself, from start to finish, took about 8-9 hours, by my lonesome...
If I hadn't sped up and cut the videos short, one, I would have never been able to upload them to YouTube and two, I am pretty sure it would have gotten pretty boring to watch...:rolleyes:
As far as the time you have to mix the two parts of foam and pour it is about 20-30 seconds, that includes the time spent mixing them...by then it starts to expand and you had better be done pouring...that is also the reason to be sure you have some way to mix it quickly and thoroughly...a stirring stick will work, but you had better be fast...
The time differences come from the amounts you mix at one time, the more material, the faster it tends to "kick"...
I recall the largest batches I made, one was the 'erupting one', was 16 ounces of Part A and 16 ounces of Part B for a total of 32 ounces...
After all is said and done, it is better to try and keep your batches on the smallish side, say 8oz.A+8oz.B...although that will definitely take a lot longer, but is a bit more controllable...
 

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Great video Gus...great music...not only enjoyed it but just as in FriscoBoaters videos...a lot to be learned. You are to be commended on taking the time to share the project....OK...enough BS:blabla: When you shoved the foam that had already kick and had erupted, back in the hole...I assume you poured in more liquid...any idea how much the liquid disolves the already set up material? Wondering if it disolves it in any way or just sort of flows around it? Also....the last song that was playing...name and artist please. Thanks for getting back on the project....I missed ya man! Dan
 

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Great video Gus...great music...not only enjoyed it but just as in FriscoBoaters videos...a lot to be learned. You are to be commended on taking the time to share the project....OK...enough BS:blabla: When you shoved the foam that had already kick and had erupted, back in the hole...I assume you poured in more liquid...any idea how much the liquid disolves the already set up material? Wondering if it disolves it in any way or just sort of flows around it? Also....the last song that was playing...name and artist please. Thanks for getting back on the project....I missed ya man! Dan

Thanks Dan,
I really did enjoy pouring the foam and making the video was a hoot.
The already expanded chunks stay that way, hard...when I poured more liquid foam into the cavity, it just expanded around all those chunks and encased them as part of the whole mass/mess...I actually saw a couple of them doing just that while peering down one of the openings as the foam was starting to grow...
Artist; Marc Broussard, Album; Carenco, Song; Home
Glad to be back and feeling all warm and fuzzy 'bout being missed...:D
Happy to hear it was entertaining and somewhat educational...
Gus
 

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Kicked foam stays in the pieces Gus tore them into, they do not 'dissolve'. Since he did such a good foam job, I'd expect the already kick'd pieces 'floated' as the newly poured foam started to expand. Once the torn pieces butted into a stringer, the underside of the deck or the boat hull, the foam should have expanded around them. In theory completely encapsulating the pieces in fresh expanding foam.

EDIT: GT's got ya covered tooo
 
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Just had a sec to catch yur video Gus, man, big, messy job behind ya there. I'm betting yur pretty happy bout that!



Hey, there is an alternative to all that you know. I'd be happy to give ya all the details, just give me a hollar:becky:
 

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GT1M, I 'm sure in your lengthy thread you stated what O/B you were going to install, but I haven't found it after a cursory search. I was wondering what is going to be the power plant for this rebuild? My HydroGlass 15' Glasstream boat was outfitted with a Mercury inline 6 115HP O/B. And for the record, it would fly. The hull design is under-cut in the frontal section allowing a good amount of lift. So after you finish this project you will most defiantly have a screaming solid boat for years (actually decades) to come. The original bloats were chopper-gun hulls instead of hand laid built boats. A lot of folks didn't like them for that reason, but yours will be better then chopper-gun or hand-laid hull. I can only imagine the performance you will enjoy with it. Makes me wish I still had mine yet...
 

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Just had a sec to catch yur video Gus, man, big, messy job behind ya there. I'm betting yur pretty happy bout that!
You betcha!:dance:



Hey, there is an alternative to all that you know. I'd be happy to give ya all the details, just give me a hollar:becky:
Possibly something to do with spaghetti or laundry detergent???;)


GT1M, I 'm sure in your lengthy thread you stated what O/B you were going to install, but I haven't found it after a cursory search. I was wondering what is going to be the power plant for this rebuild? My HydroGlass 15' Glasstream boat was outfitted with a Mercury inline 6 115HP O/B. And for the record, it would fly. The hull design is under-cut in the frontal section allowing a good amount of lift. So after you finish this project you will most defiantly have a screaming solid boat for years (actually decades) to come. The original bloats were chopper-gun hulls instead of hand laid built boats. A lot of folks didn't like them for that reason, but yours will be better then chopper-gun or hand-laid hull. I can only imagine the performance you will enjoy with it. Makes me wish I still had mine yet...

When I first bought this tub, it had a 1980, or so, Mercury 140 HP Tower of Power/ or trouble...depending on how you look at it...
The few times I had it out fishing...before I let all the factory smoke out of it...it would read around 50-55 MPH on the speedo...and that was when it was rotten and water logged...yeah, it definitely was a performer...I had the power head rebuilt and it will be hanging on the back again...I figured since this was rated at 140 back then, which was calculated at the crank...it probably puts about 80% of that into the prop...:D

This is a shot of it back when...


Happy Friday, Iboaters!:watermelon:
 
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