Lund Nisswa Restoration

[fixb52s]

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Not bad for an old retired Air Force maintainer...

Looking great there. Your quality is really showing. Too bad it all gets covered up!​

 

[lundnisswa]

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Ok, boat building is very time consuming, but am enjoying the challenge.

Today I set out to make the three Bulkhead Templates while the Transom is curing, want to get these done before the Stringers go in.

Once again some tricky angles to deal with, Took 4 hours to get the Templates fitted.

Lund

 

[erikgreen]

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That reminds me, I need to do a templating tutorial. Nice job there, though... looks like you have things under control

 

[drewmitch44]

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Do it then erik. Where is this going to be posted?

 

[drewmitch44]

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How much foam do you think you are going to have to use lund? Im thinking that im going to have to use the same ammount.

 

[erikgreen]

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Do it then erik. Where is this going to be posted?

It'll be here, although I've been thinking we should start collecting the particularly good info here in a wiki or something. At least a sticky collection of links to the really useful threads.

I'm going to use my new deck going in for an example, since it's too late to do my bulkheads, but the same techniques can be used.

Look for it sunday at the earliest though... gotta visit family this weekend.

Erik

 

[drewmitch44]

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eric do you have a shareaproject page or photobucket or something?

 

[lundnisswa]

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DM44- On the Pour Foam;

I am going to use 2 units of 2lb foam (4gallons), supposed to provide 16 Cu. Feet at 70 degrees, I am going to pour the two inboard stringer channels without the floor on first, cut with wire if I have to, The outboard stringer channel, in my opinion needs to be done after the decking and everything is in place, gonna have to drill holes and patch. Thats my plan anyway, we will see what happens.

Taking a day off today from boat building, tilled the garden and planted potatoes and have to get my taxes done. I did pull all the bolts and Clamps from the Transom, that baby is not coming off any time soon, as a matter of fact I had a piece of wood under a clamp on the exterior of the boat, and some of the PT got in there from the transom cap mount holes, I started to try to pry it off but it was taking fiberglass with it, so I had to Grind it off.

Only complaint I have on the PT in my particular application is the bedding, I had the bedding in there perfectly, when it cured it expanded out and sorta of started to crack from expansion I guess, it is still serving it's purpose and will get covered with a fillet anyway, it just bothers me.

My method for the PT on the Transom was, 1 Large Tube PT (28oz), half on the wood, half on the boat, and then I used two of the 10 oz tubes for the bedding, used a small notched trowel. Two person job.

Heres some pix of various areas of the Transom after it cured for 36 hours, it was over 60 degrees in the shop and I had heat lamps in the boat warming Transom while curing. The one picture with the ID plate is where the wood was stuck on there and started ripping out the glass.
Lund

 

[erikgreen]

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eric do you have a shareaproject page or photobucket or something?

I actually have my own web server, which I can use although it's not the fastest connection in the world. Maybe if I keep the pics small.

 

[lundnisswa]

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Stringer final fitting;
Cut out notches for cross member supports, and cut out where the livewell drops in, also put a roundover on all edges to ease the turns for the fiberglass. Holes are predrilled for the removable center floor section support brackets, oversized holes to waterproof them with epoxy.

I have decided to glass over the tops while still out of the boat, then bed in the outboard stringers first, glass them in, then bed in the Inboards and glass them in.

Oh By the way, my PL Premium applied 3 days ago is still wet in the center of the Transom bedding, it is not runny wet like oops experienced, but none the less wet, I found this out because I wanted to trim some excess areas off, as soon as I cut into it I could feel it was wet, temp was not a factor. What concerns me about this is should I use it to bed stringers, I have some areas over 1/4" to bridge.

Lund

 

[jcsercsa]

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LOOKING Great ON my 16 foot tri-hull I am going to use 16 cb feet .. 2 kits ... hope that helps a little !! Man she is really looking good !! John

 

[Nisswa]

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Stringer final fitting;
Cut out notches for cross member supports, and cut out where the livewell drops in, also put a roundover on all edges to ease the turns for the fiberglass. Holes are predrilled for the removable center floor section support brackets, oversized holes to waterproof them with epoxy.

I have decided to glass over the tops while still out of the boat, then bed in the outboard stringers first, glass them in, then bed in the Inboards and glass them in.

Oh By the way, my PL Premium applied 3 days ago is still wet in the center of the Transom bedding, it is not runny wet like oops experienced, but none the less wet, I found this out because I wanted to trim some excess areas off, as soon as I cut into it I could feel it was wet, temp was not a factor. What concerns me about this is should I use it to bed stringers, I have some areas over 1/4" to bridge.

Lund

I'm new to this site and took a look at your project "AWESOME". I owned a 1984 Nisswa 16 footer with a 50hp merc.tiller. I bought it from my brother who purchased it new. The floor was replaced, I believe in 1990 by Lund and I replaced everything topside in 1998.The floor was still solid but the livewell was getting a little punky. Should have went all the way but didn't. In 2006 I purchased a 1991 Lund pro V 17 footer with side console. I refurbished it in 2007 and went all the way down to the studs this time. Turned it into a Tiller model. The nisswa was a unreal boat way ahead of it's time. I had a chance to fish with Walleye pro Mark Martin in 2007 and we talked about the Nisswa and he said he loved it and would like to buy another just as a keep sake. I would really like to see your project done. Looks Great.

 

[lundnisswa]

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The nisswa was a unreal boat way ahead of it's time. I had a chance to fish with Walleye pro Mark Martin in 2007 and we talked about the Nisswa and he said he loved it and would like to buy another just as a keep sake. I would really like to see your project done. Looks Great.

Thanks JC for the encouragement! I am dreading the foam days, when they come.

Nisswa,
Thanks for the Input on the Nisswa, Not that many people have seen them since only made a couple years. I agree and have said for years just what you said, "The Nisswa is a boat way ahead of it's time".
That is why I have kept it for all of these 22 years, and I plan on keeping it for another 22 years and pass it on to my son, so I hope I can do a quality rebuild, then keep a close eye on it in the future to stop the rotting before it starts.
I believe that putting a cover on it when wet is what caused the majority of the rot to start, never had a chance to dry out, remember taking the cover off many years ago and actually had some mushrooms growing in there. This time around she will stay in the garage, cover off, hatches open, bow high.

Todays update is short
Glassed over the Tops of the Outboard stringers.
This Boat building is very time consuming, just this small job took over 4 hours, prep stringers, prep glassing supplies, cut strips to fit and have stacked in order, do the lay up-then clean up.
Enjoying every minute of it, these guys have said over and over on this site, and they are right, boat building is a self rewarding project.

HOW DO I GET A FIBERGLASS SLIVER OUT OF FINGER<HURTS LIKE HECK>???


Lund

 

[Nisswa]

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Thanks JC for the encouragement! I am dreading the foam days, when they come.

Nisswa,
Thanks for the Input on the Nisswa, Not that many people have seen them since only made a couple years. I agree and have said for years just what you said, "The Nisswa is a boat way ahead of it's time".
That is why I have kept it for all of these 22 years, and I plan on keeping it for another 22 years and pass it on to my son, so I hope I can do a quality rebuild, then keep a close eye on it in the future to stop the rotting before it starts.
I believe that putting a cover on it when wet is what caused the majority of the rot to start, never had a chance to dry out, remember taking the cover off many years ago and actually had some mushrooms growing in there. This time around she will stay in the garage, cover off, hatches open, bow high.

Todays update is short
Glassed over the Tops of the Outboard stringers.
This Boat building is very time consuming, just this small job took over 4 hours, prep stringers, prep glassing supplies, cut strips to fit and have stacked in order, do the lay up-then clean up.
Enjoying every minute of it, these guys have said over and over on this site, and they are right, boat building is a self rewarding project.

HOW DO I GET A FIBERGLASS SLIVER OUT OF FINGER<HURTS LIKE HECK>???


Lund

In my research of the nisswa I was told it was made from 84-88 it came in blue and red, side console or tiller. Apparently Genmar who owns Lund and Larson asked Larson to make a fiberglass fishing boat for Lund. So Larson took a hull design from a bowrider and cut the top off. The Nisswa was born. I heard they also made a 18 footer but that came from my brother so I haven't confirmed that. I would appreciate being corrected if someone has heard different. This is what I was told. My buddies always bugged me saying my boat was a Larson. I'll try and post some pics of my finnished 1991 Lund Pro V with the help of my wife.The snow is coming down heavy right now in Northern Ontario.

 

[lundnisswa]

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Nisswa, I believe the 18 footer you are speaking of is the Cherokee.
Happens to be I have found a cherokee with Transom troubles for next to nothing, no motor or trailer though, that just may be another project if I can find a trailer.

Your boat looks like New!

Lund

 

[fixb52s]

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Those fiberglass splinters hurt like hell! Try putting some vinegar on it. My wife told me about this, and what it does is it breaks down the glass. It does take a lot of the itching away.​

 

[Nisswa]

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Nisswa, I believe the 18 footer you are speaking of is the Cherokee.
Happens to be I have found a cherokee with Transom troubles for next to nothing, no motor or trailer though, that just may be another project if I can find a trailer.

Your boat looks like New!

Lund

Thank You but I owe alot to my buddy who is a fantastic body man painter for years. He is super talented and he spent around 55 hrs on the hull. he had the whole boat suspended in his shop and it was a real sight.Here is a few more pics.

 

[drewmitch44]

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For fiberglass splinter you should wrap your finger with duct tape and then rip the tape off. The splinter should stick to the tape and come out when you take the tape off. As a matter of fact, if you were to go to the hospital with fiberglass burn, or with a lot of fiberglass splinters or whatever, They actually use good old duct tape on you to get all that stuff out. Might sound funny but it works.

 

[erikgreen]

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I use the lint remover rollers myself.

If the splinter is big enough, go after it with a tweezers, just make sure you use a sharp tweezers, and clean the spot before and after with a disinfectant.. something other than alcohol.

I think vinegar helps dissolve uncured resin, but thankfully it cannot actually break down the glass fibers themselves.

The best way to avoid splinters, itch, and more serious injuries is always to prevent them with proper safety gear. If you think your skin itches, imagine what that stuff is doing in your lungs or eyes.

I once had a splinter of glass fiber made stiff by resin stuck in my hand, point in, for three days... I figured it was just another ding in my skin until I pulled out a 1/8 inch long spike with my fingernails.

Erik

 

[lundnisswa]

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Have a question for you guys; it is bothering me that the Boat Drain Plug hole is over an inch from the actual bottom of the boat, there is no way all the water could ever drain out, I am planning on making a gradual sloping ramp to meet up with drain hole level with peanut butter, then glassing over it with 1708, do you guys think that the peanut butter will be OK in the wettest part of the boat?
\So tommorrow I am going to ramp up the keel to meet the drain hole, then glass the Transom to the hull, one layer of 1708 or two to glass the Transom to the hull?


I have had to work the last 4 days, so I got slowed up a bit, I did get the bottoms of the stringers waterproofed, and the Tops of the inboards glassed over while out of the boat, today I had high hopes of getting something done in the boat but I spent more time thinking (planning my attack) than executing, I have tomorrow off so I will get at it then.

I did manage to make the forward battery box, sits way up in the bow, takes a beating, as a matter of fact the manufacturers battery box bottom was crushed/collapsed, so the box has to be strong, so I made it out of plywood and will glass over it.


Lund