making oil

searay3

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Gentlemen, 1988 searay seville 21ft cuddy mercury 4.3LX 205 hp. 430 hours. I have read the posts about marine engines running cool and "making oil". Is it safe to just drain off the excess oil, or does it require a complete change. Only have about 20 hours on Mobil1 and it shows about a quart high. Boat is used for pleasure boating and operates "no wake" more than wot. (I'm in Nebraska, limited lakes available) Oil is not milky, actually quite clear, but is starting to discolor.
 

Haut Medoc

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Re: making oil

A quart sounds like a lot to me, are you sure that you have no water leaks? How gradual is this rise in level? I would change all of the oil and keep a really close watch on the level in the future.....J
 

Don S

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Re: making oil

Hate to tell you this, but engines don't make oil.<br />If the oil level rises, it's either from water or gas diluting the oil. Neither of which is good for the engine.
 

searay3

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Re: making oil

I'm confused:<br /><br />"A. This is referred to as "Making oil". Here it is in a nutshell. Water vapor enters the crankcase of all motors from the atmosphere, and as a by-product of combustion. In other motors, the oil gets rather hot and any water vapor that may condense will steam-off and exit the crankcase breather. 4-stroke outboard motor oil doesn't get nearly as hot, so the water just keeps on collecting.<br /><br /><br />Q. Is it always water?<br /><br />A. No. Tiny amounts of raw fuel also leak into the crankcase on the compression stroke, potentially diluting the oil and raising the level on a cool-running motor. Or there could be a fuel system leak. Typically the odor of the latter situation is fairly obvious, but not necessarily. Lack of a gassy smell shouldn't preclude checking the possibility of fuel system leaks. Over choking and frequent flooding will also cause fuel to get into the oil."<br />The motor runs about 140 deg, how is a marine I/O different from the 4 stroke outboard? Do not the same rules apply? It does not smell gassy, but I am concerned about water.
 

Don S

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Re: making oil

If you can't smell any gas in the oil and it's not milky, then you may have overfilled it. Drain it down to the proper level and take it for a ride and see if it comes back.<br />The oil level raising a quart is a problem and must be found. Like I said before it's either water or gas, It's not an oil refinery and can actually make new oil.
 

searay3

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Re: making oil

thanks again.... I will change the oil/filter and watch. It does not have a lot of use but is old. The article must refer to a very small raise in oil. I was concerned because of the quart rise as well.
 

burp

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Re: making oil

searay3, The oil level on the dipstick can also vary depending where the oil level is taken at......on the trailer wherever or boat in the water. I always rely on the dipstick level with the engine cold and the boat in the water.
 
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