making power on 4.3

mylesm260

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Re: making power on 4.3

Aside from forced induction, no, there are no aftermarket performance parts for the 4.3.

4.3's are already camed pretty hot, so there's no wiggle room there.

Now if you had a 5.7 (350) there would be lots of options, aftermarket heads for example make a pretty significant difference.
 

Bondo

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Re: making power on 4.3

no, there are no aftermarket performance parts for the 4.3.
???????????????????????????????????????? What rock are you living under,..??

I'm with Bubba,... Slap a 4bbl. carb,+ matched intake on it for an Honest 30hp,...
It's quite Noticable....
 

Tail_Gunner

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Re: making power on 4.3

???????????????????????????????????????? What rock are you living under,..??

I'm with Bubba,... Slap a 4bbl. carb,+ matched intake on it for an Honest 30hp,...
It's quite Noticable....


Agreed..actually it is simple to get 270 hp
+ out of 4.3 with vortec heads..little cam work..little valve train mod...little thru the hull exhaust work...Just stay away from EFI..that's a headache.

What ever can be done to a 350 is pretty much availbe to a 4.3 even a stroker kit..
 

IVAZ

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Re: making power on 4.3

4 barrel carb, air intake and vortec heads are the only "easy" upgrades. The cam and valvetrain mods tailgunner wrote are very do-able but require the correct knowledge or you will be sucking in water. Thru hulls can also be done but I personally don?t like the v6 sound (I also have the 4.3).
BTW welcome to iboats.
 

180shabah

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Re: making power on 4.3

First question needs to be:

What are you trying to accomplish? Then we can start to talk about how to get there.
 

winner228

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Re: making power on 4.3

thanks guys for all the replies. I would just like to get more speed out of my boat wot @3400 it will only do 28 mph cruising 22 mph @ 3200. it?s a brand new GM engine I got from a friend for 500 so I just pulled out the old engine and put this one in. its not a marine engine so I know I got to put a cam in it do any of know what kind would work. I know the motor is supposed to run 4400 to 4800 wot would a cam make that much difference.
 

winner228

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Re: making power on 4.3

and where do i get a 4bbl intake.would any kind work?
 

180shabah

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Re: making power on 4.3

You need to slow down, fix what you have, THEN, decide if you still need more power.

What cam is in this "brand new" engine. did you compression test it? How much of it is new? Condition of ignition components? condition of fuel system and carb? What is the weight of the boat and what is it supposed to be? What gear ratio is in the drive? what prop are you running? What is the condition of that prop?
 

Bt Doctur

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Re: making power on 4.3

Plus isn`t the car stuff emission rated and down on compression ratio`s
 

SteveDavis

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Re: making power on 4.3

Start with the easy things, like your prop. Prop size and pitch have a large impact on WOT RPM. Then start to move backwards, looking at fuel delivery, combustion, and the alike.
 

cannonford57

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Re: making power on 4.3

the most obvious answer is gonna be prop to get it in the rpm range but we dont know what you have....probably a choked downmalibu or sumthin like it throttle bodied motor....in the words of somebody a lot more famous than i am...."show us what your working with" just my opinion of course
 

wca_tim

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Re: making power on 4.3

start by making sure everything is running right - as in timing, firing on all cylinders, obvious stuff.

Do you have any idea how fast the boat was before? was it with the same prop?

If the engine is in reasonable tune, you're so over propped that you're way below max horsepower for the engine - even if it's a mild car engine. So I would start with a prop once you make sure engine is running right.

then, need to know what engine it is. There were a number of different 4.3 configurations in cars, some made a good bit more power than others. Depending on what you have, the possible gain without doing anything truly drastic could be a lot more than 30 horsepower...

Finally, a huge piece of the puzzle is what kind of boat is it? that'll give a much better idea of wnat is reasonable and what isn't... hope this is hekpful
 

mylesm260

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Re: making power on 4.3

Actually no, the cam profile in the "automotive" 4.3 is bang on with the marine cam. I know because I'm running an automotive cam (and engine) in my boat.

Remember, when people talk about automotive cams vs marine cams, they used to be talking about taking a 350 out of something like a camero, and dumping it in boat. Because the camero is a sports car, it will be camed hot, to make more HP, as a result, it will make less bottom end.

But the 4.3's are ONLY used in Trucks/SUV's, so they only ever came with cams that have a pretty flat torque curve.

If your not getting anywhere near full RPM's, something's up with your setup. Like everyone said, check your ignition, and your timing, and make sure your carb is setup right.


Just for comparison, I had a 2bbl odd fire 4.3 with a 19P prop that would barely turn 4400 RPMS.

I swapped in an even fire vortec 4.3 out of a 2001 astro van (with automotive EFI, another long story) and with the same prop, I was hitting my automotive rev limter at 5500 RPMS! I ended up going with a 23P prop, and I'm still reving out to 4900 RPMS....



So in your case, I'm assuming you're grafting your old marine stuff over to your truck block: starter, alternator, intake, carbs, ignition. Because you didn't mention anything about a different intake manifold, I'm going to assume your old marine engine was vortec aswell. (vortec and non vortec intake manifolds are not compatible, different bolt pattern)


If you had a 4.3 in there originally that could hit 4400+ rpms, than there is no reason your current motor can't, so long as you can get it running right.

What vehicle (and year) did you're vortec come out of?
 

winner228

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Re: making power on 4.3

here is a PIC of my boat. it?s a 23 ft winner. boat weight 4500. I took a compreson test and it was good. only thing that is not marine is the heads and block every thing else is marine all marine accessories is new the 2bbl carb was rebuilt. the prop is a 15p. the old prop was a 19p and at wot the boat ran 35 mph @ 4400.
 

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winner228

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the old motor was the none vtec motor with the 4bbl QJET.
 

winner228

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no i have not would that make the wot rpm not as high to.
 
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