Man vs. Boat (season 1).

[jbcurt00]

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Special delivery headed your way, compliments of Mrs WOG:

 

[Decker83]

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Man, I'm dying to get some work done on my boat... I want stringers in there ASAP. Have a good one!

I know the feeling all too well.
What I find myself doing at my office everyday is closing my office at 5:30 pm and finish all the reports by 6:00 pm. By that time its dark. Now I am counting how many minutes after 6:00 before it gets dark.
Man it's killing me not to come home and start working on the boat. :facepalm:

 

[oops!]

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I know the feeling all too well.
What I find myself doing at my office everyday is closing my office at 5:30 pm and finish all the reports by 6:00 pm. By that time its dark. Now I am counting how many minutes after 6:00 before it gets dark.
Man it's killing me not to come home and start working on the boat. :facepalm:

May I suggest a light bulb? teee heee heee.....(JK)

when i was deep in my boat...(building it for me, not for a coustomer) it was get all my work done at the store....deal with my employees...kick them out.....lock up and go !....

Working on the boat after work was one of the most relaxing things I could do.....I just loved working on it....
Dressed up like a mummy.....breathing glass dust till I wheezed....opening the door to go thru and walking into the door jam cause I was stoned on fumes.
Its a really dirty, itchy, stinky, hard job.

But I Just loved doing it.
When both you guys are done.....and the dust is in the bin........the bottle hits the hull...the transom splashes in the water....and the key turns the motor to life..and the grin Will be on your faces as the kids smiles gleam.

 

[Pmccraney]

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Hope everyone had a great weekend. I had a pretty productive weekend on the boat and got a few updates for you.

1. Did some sanding/fairing on the back-side of my transom.... Got dealt another set-back (you will see it on the video), but I am still not departing from my plan... I can visualize how it's going to come out; it's just going to take some care and attention (i.e. a lot of building-up, sanding and fairing) to get it good and right...

2. Got the y-pipe, transom assembly and gimble housing off the donor boat (also cut out the back of the donor boat for my template). I think this boat wins the rotton transom award (wow!).... Also, finished removing the wiring, controls, etc...

3. Did the first big CSM lay-up across the interior transom.... Working with a CSM lay-up that big with that many curves was a bit of a messy challenge, but I think I did good. That's in video #2 - still uploading. Video #1 is below:

Have a good one fellas! Look for the second update later tonight or in the a.m.

 

[jbcurt00]

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Nice work, sorry about the de-lam. Nice video tour, I like the I-pad service manual. Hope they pay ya royalty.

What are the chances that the friction & spinning flap wheel, are encouraging the de-lam at the boundary edge you are working. When you were kind of picking at it, it looked like there was less then 1/8" showing white (de-lam). And seemed to be fairly well bonded as you picked at it.....

Have a good week

 

[Marada92]

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Sorry to hear your having problems still with the transom PM... Youll get through it though! I got mine completely glassed in and was trying to drill the holes and test fit the transom assembly when the PL I used to glue the transom wood in broke loose. Sooo now Ive got to cut it all out and start back over... Will surely be putting it back in with PB this time!! But keep working at it man! If it doesn't warm up soon I may start begging you to clear some room so I can haul mine down and borrow that heated shop!

 

[Pmccraney]

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Nice work, sorry about the de-lam....
What are the chances that the friction & spinning flap wheel, are encouraging the de-lam at the boundary edge you are working. When you were kind of picking at it, it looked like there was less then 1/8" showing white (de-lam). And seemed to be fairly well bonded as you picked at it.....

Have a good week

You make a good point, and I had the same concern as I was watching my transom skin flake away... The only thing that made me keep going is it was a noticeable difference between the places that remained (good bond) and the places that flaked away... I figured if I was causing it to flake away it would have happened everywhere. I probably could have left it alone and it would have been fine.... But, I can build it back up - fair it smooth and I won't have to worry about any weak spots... What you saw there on the flake was just a hairline piece of what was left after sanding.... It was not really a representative sample of what I was dealing with.... It was like the transom skin didn't bond well to the peanut butter, or was just so thin that when you put the wheel to it, it just chipped off...

vid 2 is uploading now... stay tuned...

Marada, thanks for stopping by.. Been curious as to how you are coming along... I can make some room for and I can come lend a hand one weekend when you get back on it.

Thanks,

 

[glnbnz]

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I wish that I had some words of wisdom about the delam. I will be very interested in finding out what some of the experts have to say about it. Enjoying the video updates thanks

 

[Marada92]

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I havent done much of anything since early fall. I need to get back in there and get that transom cut out and cleaned up and finish grinding the deck lip out while its cool... makes putting my mummy suit on a little more bearable! If you want to come help ill give you the address where the boats at and let you tackle all that grinding ive got left since your already itching. Just let me know when your going to be there so I can stay a good 10 miles from all that white stuff flying!

 

[Pmccraney]

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Okay guys... Video #2...Check out the little surprise that Robert found in the woods...

 

[jbcurt00]

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Man did you hit the lottery: boat work space, engine tools & equipment plus help working on the motor, all that goes w/ that work space and a go-cart!?!?! Swweeet! I'd be hard pressed to pick between your setup 30-40min away or GT1M's tiled & a/c'd work space...

If it rolls & turns, motor should be fairly simple assuming it's not seized. W/ the forum O/B & a general knowledge of the lawnmower motor, you should have no problem getting it setup & tearing up the lawn quick. The brakes are probably going to need some attention, but shouldn't be overly complex on that one. I think you can probably set the throttle cable up w/ a governor pretty easy too, looks like a heavy go-cart & a fairly big lawnmower engine.

Let us know how Mrs PMC takes the news of a 'free' go-cart...

Great work on the big CSM install, and the fillets looked good. I'll try to remember the wet fillet CSM layup, that makes since, and follows oops advice about wet on wet install.

 

[chriscraft254]

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You might have hit the jackpot with that go-cart man. Honda motor is what you want. Hopefully its not seized up. Wonder why someone would just leave it out in the woods. my guess is it hasn't been there that long, motor paint isn't rusted off. Good luck on the rest of the transom. you will be putting stringers in before you know it.

 

[Pmccraney]

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..... I will be very interested in finding out what some of the experts have to say about it. Enjoying the video updates thanks

Thanks Glen, me too!

You might have hit the jackpot with that go-cart man. Honda motor is what you want. Hopefully its not seized up. Wonder why someone would just leave it out in the woods. my guess is it hasn't been there that long, motor paint isn't rusted off. Good luck on the rest of the transom. you will be putting stringers in before you know it.

Thanks, yeah, there is random stuff all over that property.... Not sure if you are familiar with either TV show, but it's sort of a cross between hoarders and american pickers out there (more towards the latter).... He just picks stuff up and it ends up here or there... (old cars, 4-wheeler, neon flashing sign, a few refrigerators, pvc, ceramic tile, etc...)... Not sure why he shoved the go-cart off into the woods a bit... Robert was certainly glad to find it.... there is also a neat little ATV (4-wheeler) behind one of the sheds that we may tackle one day too....

 

[kfa4303]

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awesome find pm! You gotta convert that go-kart to an amphibious assault landing vehicle that can be launched from the boat to shore. It looks like it's half way there with the big tires. best of all the price was right.....FREE! Cheers!

 

[jasoutside]

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Progress man, cool!

That transom from the Starcraft is scary. Hard to imagine that could hold anything in place, yikes

You did a great service by cutting up that glass boat. Now, don't you feel good

 

[GT1000000]

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Bet you are feeling good about that first layer of CSM on the inner transom! Great job, love the gloves......just a tip...keep a mixing bucket with clean fresh acetone in it and a rag...dip the rag, wipe the gloves, maybe a few less will be used...
Bummer on the outer skin, but better that you found it and are taking care of it...also, remember to save yourself a few seconds of work by not worrying too much about glassing where the keyhole is going to be...you will be cutting it out and having to re-glass all the edges anyway...

Excellent score on the cart...definitely nice with the 8 HP Honda engine...little maintenance and Robert will have one heck of a fun toy...definitely have him wear a helmet...

As always, thanks for sharing and best regards,
Gus

 

[oops!]

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Hi patrick.....

I had to wait till I was alone to see vid one....mrs oops was around most of the day when the vid was posted.....now i have some time.

Response to vid one .....1 minit to 3.5 minit mark.

Repete after me..........I am not having problems with the transom.........I am not having problems with the transom.

That is the way it is supposed to be going in this circumstance.....really....

Let me explain.....

You could not get the new transom flush with the inner skin in the first place......correct...?

So there MUST be a weak bond to the old skin....(de lam)
You have filleted in the sides of the transom and glassed it in from the inside....
These fillets, and the inside glass that covers them....is the new inner skin that will not let your transom move, as it sits right now.
Your new transom is in the correct place where it is.

IT IS THE OLD HULL THAT IS NO LONGER IN THE CORRECT PLACE

Grind away anything that does not look like boat.

If the old outer hull is still curved there....then grind it till it isnt !

DO NOT GRIND ON THE NEW TRANSOM WOOD NEAR THE KEY HOLE. (it will throw off your flatness and parelellism)

Fill the gap at the bottom with the peanut butter. it does not matter if the old hull kinda sticks out past the new transom...(use the structural stuff that I gave you the recipe for, for this job)
When you cut the new glass for the transom...Just cut as close to that old glass as you can. and keep building it up till the gap is the same height....and glass over it all.

As far as the outer edges of the new transom in relation to the old hull skin.....
It does not matter if you grind into the fillets.... or expose the new edge of the transom ply.
This is a thick layer of fiberglass held in place by the fillet and the outer (inside) glass wrap.
So what if the transom is only held in place by the inside glass work at this point?.

Get your transom flat in relation to the new tranosm.....this is now your reference point..... grind all around the transom...

You are going to add several layers of matt/csm sandwiches to the exterior, thus forming your new skin.
So just grind and grind till you have a flat surface to glass to.
I see about another hour of grinding the old hull till you have a flat surface.

Once its flat.....then glass wrap the whole shabang. !
Wrap it just like you would if you cut the entire glass skin of the transom off !!!!!

4 layers of alternating csm/1708 sandwiches.
The csm wraps should go around the bottom of the hull.....so you will have to do some fairing on the bottom side so you wont have a little hook right before the transom on the plaining surface.

Sleep peacefully my good friend...

It is going as it should !

Gonna replay vid one now for more questions.

 

[jbcurt00]

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^^^ sounds like good news ^^^

Glad to hear your headed in the right direction after all......

 

[oops!]

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6:18 of the first vid.

you dropped a phonelic washer with a spring inside the hole of the washer.

under those washers, is a n opening in the inner t plate casting.....there are nuts in the opening.

take the nuts, washers, and springs and put them in a baggie......and put them in a safe place where you will not forget where you put them...

these are very important.

as well ...check on those springs....make sure they are not broken off....even 1/4 inch of spring broken is enough to cause a vibration.

 

[jasoutside]

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I had to wait till I was alone to see vid one....mrs oops was around most of the day when the vid was posted.....now i have some time.

Whenever I get caught I tell Mrs. Outside that Patrick and I are just friends