marine radio

ziggy

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Re: marine radio

a fixed vhf w/ an 8' antenna out broadcasts (has better range) a hand held. with vhf. it's mostly about getting your antenna as high as possible. the vhf beam is straight. that's what limits it's distance ability. so the higher the better. i have only one radio, it's fixed. i want the best chance i can get when i need to get out.....

good luck with your decision mariob....
 

freddyray21

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Re: marine radio

hand helds do not have the range a fixed mount does with a fixed antenna. Just does not happen, but if you don't need the range a hand held is fine. Where we boat we would probably get by with a handheld just fine, but not need to in our case.
 

Boatist

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Re: marine radio

A cell phone would be my last choice. I happen to maintain 2 911 dispatch centers in my job. When a call comes in from a land line dispatchers knows your address, where the nearest fire station, where the nearest police station. If someone hangs up they automaticaly dispatch police to your address thinking someone broke in and grabbed the phone out of your hand and hung it up or a domestict fight. They them call back the number. If get no answer a police officier is going to show up. If it a fire they will dispatch the fire department. Hit one key and they can tell fire what map page it on.

Cell phone 911 call out here go to California Hwy Patrol. They have no idea where you are. If you need police or fire they will ask what city your in and what you address is they transfer the call to the right agency to get you help. If your lucky they will get the right group on the first transfer.
If you on the water they have no idea where you are. They may transfer you to the Coast Guard who still have no idea where you are. If you have Lat and long then they can start to find out your problem and decide if you need Coast Guard or a tow Service.

Inland Cell phone work in most population areas, But get 5 miles offshore in the Pacific Ocean most of the time you will have no service.

In the future Cell 911 call will be checked as to how many towers you hit and they will try to get at least a general location to dispatch. Since most dispatch center do all the agency they will get your exact problem and send police or fire.

However today the 911 centers I maintain recomend cell phone users program in police and fire numbers for their home and call direct instead of useing 911. It can save 10 to 15 minutes.

Many small rivers and lakes inland will have very little or no VHF Marine use. These locations a cell phone or CB radio may be the best you can do.

Large rivers and shipping channels, The Great lakes, and the Oceans VHF Marine is the best choice.

In small lakes and rivers you may hear someone calling for help 1/4 mile away.
Out in the Pacific with 30MPH winds, 6 to 8 foot swells common all summer long and white caps you will not see or here anyone even 100 yards down wind. You may not see the boat 30 feet ahead who is in the trof on the other side of the swell just ahead. This is why the very first thing you do in a man overboard drill is to assign one person to watch the person and nothing else.
 

Mark42

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Re: marine radio

You have to put things in perspective. If you have a boat big enough to go out on the open ocean, then you have a need for an antenna mounted up high. If you run around the bay in a 17ft bow rider, a hand held will do just fine and you will probably never be out of range of the Coast Guard, harbor master, or some marina or other boaters that monitor ch 16 and 9.
 

azlakes

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Re: marine radio

what kind of radio is recommended for use on a boat?

I'm talking about a radio for emergencies.

...hi mario

for us we've had good performance and long bat life from handheld Standard Horizon HX270S. NOAA is excellent. Solid build. Good value.
 

mthieme

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Re: marine radio

I've ignored this thread for a few days; I didn't expect to return.
But...thought some of you would appreciate the fact that I using my VHF more.
I took my handheld on dad's boat Saturday night - he has no radio at all. I was making a lengthy run up the bay (at night). I could hear the chatter from a barge working 20 miles away clearly...without an 8' whip.
I had the handheld out yesterday just putting around. I took the handheld this morning out crabbing. Couldn't hear a darn thing over the Merc singing behind me when running, but I heard a little CG chatter from Annapolis about 4 miles away when I was idling tending my traps. Although some of you seem to be die hard mounted VHF radio fans, I've been finding out the value of a portable in the past week. Before this week, my handheld stayed on a third boat. If anyone insists I should have a mounted radio with a huge whip...contact me via PM and I will give you my address where you can send the equipment. 20 miles away is a lot further than I can get to someone before they go down.
 

Splat

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Re: marine radio

Yea ok.... And how well did you talk to that barge 20 miles away?

Or even the CG station 4 miles away? Just cause you can hear them , means nothing about the ability of them being able to hear you.

Your transmit power is cut down to an absolute maximum of 6 watts with a hand held, usually only five watts. A Fixed mount will offer 25 watts, some times many more. That coast guard station is probably broadcasting at well over 180watts off the top of their stick. Not to mention the gain on a the antennas.


Bill
 

mthieme

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The manufacturer states that mine is good for 12 miles. I'm sure this under perfect conditions - standing on the Eiffel Tower at night with no sunspots. If it goes 1/3 that, I'm covered.
Tell you what - it's better than yelling and splashing which would have been the alternative if needed. Oops, sorry, I forgot, I always have my cell phone too.
The two dead mountables in my shed are 5W units - same as my handheld. The console on my 14' skiff didn't grow today either. I keep watering it.
My inbox hasn't been filled with requests where to send acceptable equipment either.
 

Splat

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it's better than yelling and splashing which would have been the alternative if needed.
This is a fair and valid point.


Bill
 

Splat

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Re: marine radio

lol
I was having a stressful morning until I saw this.
thanks

You too? Good I don't feel so bad now. I spent all morning up on top of one of our smelly stinky carbon monoxide infested did I mention smelly Blast Furnaces. Some mornings I knew I should have called off.

Bill
 

Beefer

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Re: marine radio

Ok, I'll jump in. I have a handheld Standard Horizon HX260S that I got on craigslist for $20. I boat in the Intracoastal north of Tampa Bay, so I wasn't looking for long range. My first radio check with it, I was read 'Loud & Clear' by a USCG station that is approx. 22 miles from where I was. I was shocked, and confirmed the location. Needless to say, I won't be installing a mounted w/an 8'.
 
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