mariner 3 vs 4?!?!?

eclipse3gen

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Re: mariner 3 vs 4?!?!?

maiden voyage was a success, i didnt fall in or drown. it was pretty windy on the water but i managed to paddle around at a good pace. i still need a battery for the motor, maybe next time out. overall i am impressed with the boat.

when i was inflating up the boat at home i did notice a few creased marks on the pontoons, should i be concerned?

hey red,
how do you like the size and space in M3?

any other concern?
 

redrock09

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Re: mariner 3 vs 4?!?!?

the size is good for two adults max. easy to manuver and row. i havent tried out my trolling motor on it but i figure it should be fine.

I still havent figured out how to fold the boat back so it will fit in the carrying bag.
 

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Re: mariner 3 vs 4?!?!?

When i was inflating up the boat at home i did notice a few creased marks on the pontoons, should i be concerned?

Those creased marks, lines will fade away when fabric begins to stretch out with use. It's like an old lady going to have her face streched by a cosmetic surgeon.

Happy Boating
 

mrdrh99

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Re: mariner 3 vs 4?!?!?

the size is good for two adults max. easy to manuver and row. i havent tried out my trolling motor on it but i figure it should be fine.

I still havent figured out how to fold the boat back so it will fit in the carrying bag.
Hey red.... Put the floor in a sperate bag... Should be no problem
 

300winmag

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I use 2 monster goalie bags which carry everything except the motor and battery. Splits the weight perfectly :)
 

eclipse3gen

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I use 2 monster goalie bags which carry everything except the motor and battery. Splits the weight perfectly :)


what bag did you get and where did you get them?

the bag that comes with is quite useless. too big, loose and lousy. i'd rather use 2/3 smaller fitted bags so they are easier to carry.
 

redrock09

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I took the flooring and bundled it up with rope and i put the boat and inflatable seats in the bag they provide. i try to keep all sharp or hard things away, paranoia of making a hole.
 

flukesofnature

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Hey red.... Put the floor in a sperate bag... Should be no problem
Hey Red
Thought this would be a good place to chime in. I have the M3 for two seasons now.Love it. The objection already raised is wanting a bigger boat. That thought rarely occurs as I have come to love the easy tear down and carry away nature of the M3, even with the wood floor ,etc.
It is "cozy" with two people and gear, and I have tried to solve that by using seats that sit on the tubes( opening up the floor space) and this works for me. The only neg I have, and am not sure the M4 solves this, but in the wind,with a trolling motor, the M3 has a wanderlust that makes the constant correction a PITA...pain in the anatomy.(especially when solo!)
A swivel seat will solve this, and that is next on the budget, as will moving some of the mass off the stern by moving the battery forward. All things considered, I love the M3 and am glad for all the M4 Captains out there , but this little boat is a great experience.
Without being redundant....be sure to get all the air out of the floor section..I have started using coleman 12 v pump on its deflate/suction mode to do this.....the fold up woes decrease considerably when ALL the air is out.....
 
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redrock09

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i agree, the wind sucks when trying to fish. i havent done a real fishing excursion alone yet but id imagine it being a pita. i bought an anchor that helps a little when i want to stay stationary. it does its job. or maybe i shouldnt go out on windy days.

do you have a template for the wood floor? did you keep the slated flooring and put the wood floor on top?
 

Rakumi

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Re: mariner 3 vs 4?!?!?

Hey Red
Thought this would be a good place to chime in. I have the M3 for two seasons now.Love it. The objection already raised is wanting a bigger boat. That thought rarely occurs as I have come to love the easy tear down and carry away nature of the M3, even with the wood floor ,etc.
It is "cozy" with two people and gear, and I have tried to solve that by using seats that sit on the tubes( opening up the floor space) and this works for me. The only neg I have, and am not sure the M4 solves this, but in the wind,with a trolling motor, the M3 has a wanderlust that makes the constant correction a PITA...pain in the anatomy.(especially when solo!)
A swivel seat will solve this, and that is next on the budget, as will moving some of the mass off the stern by moving the battery forward. All things considered, I love the M3 and am glad for all the M4 Captains out there , but this little boat is a great experience.
Without being redundant....be sure to get all the air out of the floor section..I have started using coleman 12 v pump on its deflate/suction mode to do this.....the fold up woes decrease considerably when ALL the air is out.....

I use a cooler as a bench seat with a little seat cushion. Maybe this would work for you for facing the right direction? I also position it where i need my body weight to be to keep things most balanced.
 

flukesofnature

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If you go to the am a z on dot com site the M3 has a review section...I am A. Charles Edmunds. I originally tried to post the directions for the floor and lost a few at the beginning..but the majority got through and you can follow it pretty easy. I used 15/32 OSB with two coats of acrylic primer sealer. My M3, and they do vary a slight bit from each boat, internal dimensions were 94 inch long by 24 1/2 wide (I left an inch off all the way around...so actual was 96 x 27 1/2. snug under all the side and rear tubes)..with all the angles described in the post. once painted and surrounded by the pipe insulation...the two pieces fit very snug, and are easily toted around, for set up and take down.. I stand easily on the floor and move around when in motion..the boat is really very stable. I never got slatted floor..they just started doing that...and from many of the post on the "mariner 4 modifications" thread here in IBOATS, many of the guys go just with their DIY floor..and are happy with the stability....so from the M3 point of view..that is my perspective also.....MRDRH99 has multiple threads on the progression of his modifications that are great...you just have to modify the size a tad for the M3.
About the wanderlust and the wind..I am about to buy a drift sock...a m a zon dot com...and think the comments will prove true as to making it less "wind tossed"
 
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ronaldj

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I use a cooler as a bench seat with a little seat cushion. Maybe this would work for you for facing the right direction? I also position it where i need my body weight to be to keep things most balanced.

Does your cooler sit from tube to tube or have you attached it a different way
 

flukesofnature

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i agree, the wind sucks when trying to fish. i havent done a real fishing excursion alone yet but id imagine it being a pita. i bought an anchor that helps a little when i want to stay stationary. it does its job. or maybe i shouldnt go out on windy days.

do you have a template for the wood floor? did you keep the slated flooring and put the wood floor on top?

1..Used OSB 15/32 from H depot
2.I measured the longest line from bow to stern of the inflated floor , (remember to tuck the measuring tape snug under the side tubes and front and rear tube)and found the center of that line( divide distance by 2)
mark this with a small magic marker dot. My length was 96 inches divide by two is 48
3.Repeat the measurement for width at the widest spot of the inflated boat floor ...mine was 27inch (divide by 2 is 13 1/2 ),,mark center of that line at the mark you made for the length. This is exact center of boat.
4.From that point you have 48 inches to the bow , to the stern, and 13 1/2 inches to each side.
5 I took an inch off all dimensions..front, rear, and both sides
6. ask H depot to make the cuts for you when you buy
7. my dimensions that were cut were 24 1/2x 94( extra 1/2 inch off the sides ...fudge factor)
9. have them cut that piece in half=47x24 1/2each piece(mine)
10. find the center point of the two lines, marked on your boat with magic marker.measure up to the first section where the chambers agle inward.
11.measure this distance across and mark this distance on your wood, repeat this measurement up a the next angle(where the chambers angle inward..It is almost a 45 degree angle on each of the two inward angles that the chambers make. This is difficult to describe..but you can see that the wood has to be cut at the angles.
12.measure up from the center point again on the boat, 47 inches on my intex. Measure the length of that line all the way under the inflated side chambers, and then take two inchesoff that line measurement.....mine was 7 1/12 inches wide(9 1/2 minus 2)
This will be the measurement of the very end of each piece of wood. You will now see that this must be cut to this dimension , with the angles. The wood will fit in the boat with 1 inch to spare on the top , bottom and all sides.A skill saw or hand saw will cut the angles easily.
13. Mark and cut your wood ...I had to trim ever so slightly..you may need to also.Better to trim each side a little than to cut alot off one side or the other.
14. when the dimensions are right, with about inch to spare top,bottom, and all sides.( this is when the extra inch comes in..the pipe insulation will take up this extra inch on all sides)..
I used a file to round all the edges of the wood for splinters..some use a router,sander etc...the pipe insulation will cover all the edges,anyway.
Paint the wood on both sides with a primer sealer..I used white acrylic(about 1 quart will do the job) was told oil based is better...but the drying time and fumes were not worth it to me.
15. let dry for 2 days...repeat paint...this makes a good seal on the wood and all edges
16. You will have to cut a hole in one of the pieces to accomodate the floor valve...about a 2 1/2 in hole...measure location very accurately before cutting...and seal the hole with above primer sealer.
16. I used 3/4 inch styrofoam pipe insulation( the look like pool play toys..and can be found at home depot..they are about 6 foot long etc.split ) open the insulation lengthwise,and slide over the edge of the wood all around..including the bottom of each piece of wood where they will match up and meet in the middle of the floor of the boat. This will prevent any abrasion of the wood against the floor or the side chambers where the floor and sides meet.
This insulation takes up the extra inch on all sides of the boat..making installation very snug.
Last... I used indoor outdoor carpet, with proper indor outdoor carpet cement to cover 1 (ONE)side of the wood.
Cement the carpet first..then attach pipe insulation..over carpet around the entire perimeter of the wood..as note above.
Fit and trim as needed...
you should end up with a nice looking floor, very stable,
Installation instruction...partially inflat chamber 1 and 2...about 1/3 full,
install each piece of the wood floor, making sure the floor valve of the boat is centered in the hole that was cut in the wood for it(once again..BE VERY ACCURATE WHEN CUTTING THE HOLE IN THE WOOD FOR THE FLOOR VALVE)....
anyway..then fill chamber one and then two, and the fill floor chamber...it may seem mor difficult because of the wood on it..but you will see how it works when you do this, In fact..the floor can be left less than fully inflated because of the support of the wood,...But yes ..you can fill the floor also to full. You will see what I mean.The floor section may seem like it is not filling as well, this is the weight of the wood. if you get the floor about 1/2 full, then launch...I use the hand pump to top the side chambers and fill the floor while in the water,,,works easier for me.

** there are many videos on Y T that show this procedure for different inflatable boats....watching one will make the whole thing make sense...

I have since decided that using OSB has several drawbacks..OSB loves water.....Nuff said
 
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mrdrh99

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Re: mariner 3 vs 4?!?!? maiden voyage was a success, i didnt fall in or drown. it was pretty windy on the water but i managed to paddle around at a good pace. i still need a battery for the motor, maybe next time out. overall i am impressed with the boat. when i was inflating up the boat at home i did notice a few creased marks on the pontoons, should i be concerned?
Nope... They'll go away
 

Rakumi

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Hey ronaldj, Sorry for the time to get back to you. This site as you know has been going thru some changes. My inner dimensions are 36 inches at the widest and about 30 inches on average throughout the boat. I have the excursion 5. The cooler/bench has about 3-5 inches clearence on each side. It does not slide around on my carpet flooring. It doubles as a storage unit.
 
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