Marvel Mystery Oil

Pascal

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Re: Marvel Mystery Oil

There has been a lot of good said about this product for cleaning up engines on the oil forums I read.......

http://www.auto-rx.com/

It uses lanolin as well....
 

642mx

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Re: Marvel Mystery Oil

Personally, I wouldn't use anything in it. But whoever stated that newer engine's don't sludge up is wrong.... I've got the LS1 from my sisters 98 Trans Am on an engine stand right now. Low compression on #3 after 160K BABIED miles and oil changes every 3000 miles. The low compression was from the engine being completely worn out. When we pulled it and started tearing it down, I couldn't believe how sludged up it was. Even the valve covers needed some hot tank treatment to come clean, lifters where not worth trying to clean, push rods where gummy, bottom of the pan had pounds of crap stuck to it, etc, etc..

I'm not sure where to point the blame for the problems... LS1's should run an easy 200K from what I've read, the oil has always been Valvoline 5W30 dino oil, the filters are usually Delco's or Wix. Old age and Valvoline is what I assume went wrong... or maybe its a GM thing (never been a fan of them).

Anyways... yes, they do sludge up. Frequent oil changes are key to preventing it, but I tend to think that a high-end synthetic; such as Royal Purple, should be used. That's my recommendation for the OP, change the oil & use a high quality synthetic and a quality oil filter.
 

bigdee

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Re: Marvel Mystery Oil

Personally, I wouldn't use anything in it. But whoever stated that newer engine's don't sludge up is wrong.... I've got the LS1 from my sisters 98 Trans Am on an engine stand right now. Low compression on #3 after 160K BABIED miles and oil changes every 3000 miles. The low compression was from the engine being completely worn out. When we pulled it and started tearing it down, I couldn't believe how sludged up it was. Even the valve covers needed some hot tank treatment to come clean, lifters where not worth trying to clean, push rods where gummy, bottom of the pan had pounds of crap stuck to it, etc, etc..

I'm not sure where to point the blame for the problems... LS1's should run an easy 200K from what I've read, the oil has always been Valvoline 5W30 dino oil, the filters are usually Delco's or Wix. Old age and Valvoline is what I assume went wrong... or maybe its a GM thing (never been a fan of them).

Anyways... yes, they do sludge up. Frequent oil changes are key to preventing it, but I tend to think that a high-end synthetic; such as Royal Purple, should be used. That's my recommendation for the OP, change the oil & use a high quality synthetic and a quality oil filter.

I was making a broad statement assuming the norm.....in your case something happened out of the norm, ....bad PCV valve, broken hose,coolant leaking into oil,thermostat stuck open or missing,additives like STP,etc. The valvoline had nothing to do with it.
 

642mx

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Re: Marvel Mystery Oil

I was making a broad statement assuming the norm.....in your case something happened out of the norm, ....bad PCV valve, broken hose,coolant leaking into oil,thermostat stuck open or missing,additives like STP,etc. The valvoline had nothing to do with it.

I'm blaming the Valvoline... My sister bought it new and never used an oil additive, thermostat was fine, never lost any coolant, PCV system seems to be fine too. Even tho I really can't stand GM's, I hold an Associates Degree in Automotive Service Technology and more certifications than I care to count. I know what I'm doing. ;) If she would have went for the Mustang instead of the T/A like I told her too, my back and feet wouldn't be hurting like they do right now. :D
 

642mx

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Re: Marvel Mystery Oil

How about the owner who probably never changed the oil regularly!

Guess you missed the part about the oil being changed every 3000 miles? Is that not enough?...lol.
 

Pascal

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Re: Marvel Mystery Oil

Major snake oil.

Please explain your reasoning on this.

I do believe that aftermarket additives can be classed as 'snake oil' if the user thinks they are going to replace ongoing normal maintenance or provide some ongoing cumulative benefit above the manufacturer recommended products. The use of specific aftermarket additives can be beneficial on a short term basis for specific problems stemming from neglect or to get the owner over a hump until the repair or replacement can be done properly.
 

bigdee

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Re: Marvel Mystery Oil

Please explain your reasoning on this.

I do believe that aftermarket additives can be classed as 'snake oil' if the user thinks they are going to replace ongoing normal maintenance or provide some ongoing cumulative benefit above the manufacturer recommended products. The use of specific aftermarket additives can be beneficial on a short term basis for specific problems stemming from neglect or to get the owner over a hump until the repair or replacement can be done properly.

No marvel mystery oil is not snake oil but it may have outlived it's true purpose since modern day automobile engines last longer and are built better. MMO is in the same category as Seafoam and a host of others....it is an excellent fogging oil for O/Bs. If your engine is on it's last legs it could buy you a little more time. Sludge is not a show stopper unless it clogs something, in the old days I have seen engines with so much sludge that the only void in the crankcase was where the crankshaft was rotating! Those extremes are a rarity today.
 
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