max RPM, 100hp 1989 inline 4

jze1212

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Hello all, what should my merc be maxing out at for RPM's? I cant get it past about 4800, feels like there should be more there.. 1988 100hp I-4, 19ft starcraft..

also, seems to loose power, like the 2 secondary (2+2) are not functioning.. I am very dissapointed, I just got it back from dealer to get it operational and this is what happened my first run.. Oh, and the buzzer is going BEEP BEEP BEEP... any input would be helpful everyone, I just put almost 400 buck in to get fixed and I am BACK on the forums looking for help.. THanks in advance, Justin
 

05GlastronSX

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Re: max RPM, 100hp 1989 inline 4

4800 sounds a little low to me. id say it should be able to turn into the low 5's. What pitch prop do you have on there now? Anyting above a 17 pitch is going to be too much.

17 pitch for that engine is good, 19 pitch is pushing it,and 21 pitch is not recommended. That engine just can not push anything over a 19 without having propblems

you might need to change your current prop out for a lower pitch prop to get it to turn in the upper rpm range.

check to make sure your getting spark on all 4 cylinders and do a compression check too and go from there.
 

MartyTn

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Re: max RPM, 100hp 1989 inline 4

I have an '89 2+2 and the Merc service manual says WOT should be 5200-5500 rpm. Mine is on a fairly heavy 17' SeaRay and I had to drop from a 19" prop to a 17" prop to get heavy teenage skiirs out of the water. The 19" was okay for crusing since I could adjust the tilt/trim to get WOT to 5200-5300 and about 43 mph, but it didn't have the pull for getting heavy skiirs out of the water. I was advised to go with a stainless steel cupped 17" prop that was supposed to get "almost" as good high end as the 19" non-cupped but with a better hole shot. It seems to be working out pretty well but the speed does suffer when the boat is heavily loaded with people.

That beep beep beep is familiar to folks who have had this motor for awhile. When the magnet in the oil reservoir seperates from the float this can happen. Mine is currently in that state with bad float/magnet, and has been that way for the past year or so. I haven't had time to fix/replace the oil reservoir tank, so I unplugged the oil level sensor from my warning module. The warning module is on the right / starboard side of the motor near the bottom of the cowling (square thing about 2" square with several wires coming from/to it). I don't have the wiring schematic in front of me and I can look at it tonight to confirm, but I believe I unplugged (either) one of the two BLUE wires which will keep the oil sensor circuit from thinking the oil reservoir is empty. The motor still runs fine and the other warning circuits are still functioning but I now have the ability to run the motor dry of oil and trash it, so I always have motor oil level on the top of my pre-start check list. This has worked for me as a temporary work-around, but I can't recommend it.... So, be careful and do what you think best...

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1989 SeaRay, Merc 100HP 2+2, plus a few older boats and Mercs: Mk 58A, Merc 500, Merc 650, Merc 1000SS, Merc 1100SS (continuously learning and confused but having fun)
 

jze1212

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Re: max RPM, 100hp 1989 inline 4

MartyTn said:
I have an '89 2+2 and the Merc service manual says WOT should be 5200-5500 rpm. Mine is on a fairly heavy 17' SeaRay and I had to drop from a 19" prop to a 17" prop to get heavy teenage skiirs out of the water. The 19" was okay for crusing since I could adjust the tilt/trim to get WOT to 5200-5300 and about 43 mph, but it didn't have the pull for getting heavy skiirs out of the water. I was advised to go with a stainless steel cupped 17" prop that was supposed to get "almost" as good high end as the 19" non-cupped but with a better hole shot. It seems to be working out pretty well but the speed does suffer when the boat is heavily loaded with people.

That beep beep beep is familiar to folks who have had this motor for awhile. When the magnet in the oil reservoir seperates from the float this can happen. Mine is currently in that state with bad float/magnet, and has been that way for the past year or so. I haven't had time to fix/replace the oil reservoir tank, so I unplugged the oil level sensor from my warning module. The warning module is on the right / starboard side of the motor near the bottom of the cowling (square thing about 2" square with several wires coming from/to it). I don't have the wiring schematic in front of me and I can look at it tonight to confirm, but I believe I unplugged (either) one of the two BLUE wires which will keep the oil sensor circuit from thinking the oil reservoir is empty. The motor still runs fine and the other warning circuits are still functioning but I now have the ability to run the motor dry of oil and trash it, so I always have motor oil level on the top of my pre-start check list. This has worked for me as a temporary work-around, but I can't recommend it.... So, be careful and do what you think best...

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1989 SeaRay, Merc 100HP 2+2, plus a few older boats and Mercs: Mk 58A, Merc 500, Merc 650, Merc 1000SS, Merc 1100SS (continuously learning and confused but having fun)



All cylinders have spark, had new fuel diaphram , plugs, rectifier, all done at the dealer and then it just started acting up again so I brought it back, I wonder if that power loss is something in the carbs, accelerator pump not working properly and that would make it so the bottom 2 carbs dont kick in?? Hey MartyTn, how has your 2+2 been for you? Very reliable other than the oil res sensor..

I am hoping that after I get it back it will then get max RPM , if not than I will be experimenting with different props
 

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Re: max RPM, 100hp 1989 inline 4

I believe mine is now working (knock on wood) as designed. The kick-in point for the other 2 cylinders is 1800 RPM. If you run your motor slowly up to around 1800 rpm and then increase throttle slightly and then decrease throttle slightly and you notice some roughness in the motor while doing, this is normal as the motor is supposed to have a rough spot as it transitions from 2 to 4 cylinders. If you are getting above 3000 rpm, I feel fairly sure (but not positive) that you are on all 4 cylinders. I don't believe mine would get anywhere near that on 2 cyls. If you listen carefully as you pass through 1800 rpm you should also be able to audibly hear a difference as the other 2 cylinders kick in.

When I first got my 2+2 it ran awful. It would "spit" back every few seconds at idle, and I was advised this was from too lean a mixture (or the inability for enough fuel to get through the carbs to make the mixture rich enough). The previous owner had owned it for 3 years and he had been bad about leaving old fuel in it. I had a pro Merc shop do everything to that motor to try to fix the lean spit. They rebuilt all 4 carbs, rebuilt the fuel pump, replaced the reeds and replaced all fuel hoses. After the mechanic got it all done, he was still unhappy with it. He likes to let one idle and walk away and work on other stuff for long periods, and on my motor, it would idle fine for awhile then maybe spit back or maybe stop dead. It had a new control computer, so that wasn't suspected. This Merc mechanic had lots of years of experience and he just "knew" that the problem was still fuel. He went through all 4 carbs a second time and went through the fuel pump a second time and checked all fuel lines again to make sure no air was getting in. One of the mixture controls on one of the carbs seemed to have almost no effect even after 2 rebuilds, so he was pretty sure there was a fuel problem but he couldn't pin it down. He finally called the techs at Mercury and explained everything he had done and asked them for advice. After explaining the situation to the Merc tech, the tech asked the mechanic if Mercury QuickClean was being in this motor. The mechanic replied no. The Mercury tech advised that the mechanic let us take the boat and that we should run the motor enough to run 2 tanks of fuel through it with Mercury QuickClean mixed with our (fresh) fuel at double the recommended strength. The Merc tech said these motors just run better with QuickClean and that double strength continuously was okay. We were bummed and skeptical but we took the boat as recommended and after running less than 10 gallons of fuel through it, that motor was running like brand new, with no spitting. Ever since then I have been sure to run the fuel out of the carbs and leave the tank almost empty at the end of each season so as to have fresh fuel when run next time, and I now always run QuickClean at double strength in that motor and it runs very well and smooth.

I don't know if this will help you or not, but that's the saga on what it took to get our 2+2 running well... Best of luck to you...

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1989 SeaRay, Merc 100HP 2+2, plus a few older boats and Mercs: Mk 58A, Merc 500, Merc 650, Merc 1000SS, Merc 1100SS (continuously learning and confused but having fun)
 

jze1212

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Re: max RPM, 100hp 1989 inline 4

Wow, I wonder if all my problems stem from bad gas.... When I bought this boat it had sat for a bit and it had a FULL tank of gas, Being that the problems I have are intermittent I assumed that the gas was OK, but after hearing your story I wonder..? Hmm,, Well, I just hope that the guys at the dealer can get it straight this time, I just spent 350 bucks to get it fixed and it is doint the EXACT same thing, should hear back from them tommorow... I had alot of luck with my last Merc, I would hate to get a bad seed!! Anyway, Thanks alot MartyTn, I appreciate you feedback! Justino:)
 

jze1212

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Re: max RPM, 100hp 1989 inline 4

Sorry , typo, Justin, not JUSTINO - hahaha
 
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