May I join? Starcraft SS 16

strange82

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Re: May I join? Starcraft SS 16

Nice to have it in the water again huh?! I'll need to do my transom soon, probably next winter. Looks good man!
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jasoutside

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Heads up! Boat in the water!!!! Yesssssssss!!!!!!

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MichaelP

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Re: May I join? Starcraft SS 16

I epoxied the outside of the hull. It takes a different kind of paint. I knew that just sometimes I don't think.

Hold on a minute:eek:...Rusto can't go over epoxy paint? I have a major touch up job ahead and I epoxied my hull too. I need to learn more about this..

Concept10 - Awesome job on the transom! Nice to see a Starcraft on the water.:D
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heyyou325

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I'm hoping that statement is wrong, as I have the rusto and majic all bought. I asked a couple times here and didn't get an answer. I was told that at a local boat shop. I am going to try putting the primer on with slightly tacky epoxy, It holds better, and doesn't need sanding. once the primer is on, the paint should stick to it. I hope anyway. They changed the weather prediction for up here, so maybe I'll know this coming weekend.
And Concept the transom looks great, wished mine was ready for the water. And I know my paint won't look that good. I think I'm using the epoxy as a bug attractant.
 

concept10

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Hold on a minute:eek:...Rusto can't go over epoxy paint? I have a major touch up job ahead and I epoxied my hull too. I need to learn more about this..

Concept10 - Awesome job on the transom! Nice to see a Starcraft on the water.:D
Can you say where you got your twist nails? Thanks

I need to learn more about paint and epoxy myself. I hope the rustoleum doesn't hurt anything... I sanded every bit of the transom before I sprayed. I plan on addressing the paint issue in the winter after I get the fiberglass boat out of the garage.

The twist nails come from Home Depot. (and I just noticed they are zinc):
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concept10

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I'm hoping that statement is wrong, as I have the rusto and majic all bought. I asked a couple times here and didn't get an answer. I was told that at a local boat shop. I am going to try putting the primer on with slightly tacky epoxy, It holds better, and doesn't need sanding. once the primer is on, the paint should stick to it. I hope anyway. They changed the weather prediction for up here, so maybe I'll know this coming weekend.
And Concept the transom looks great, wished mine was ready for the water. And I know my paint won't look that good. I think I'm using the epoxy as a bug attractant.

At this point, with so many Starcraft restos here, I think these type of discussions have been addressed somewhere. I need to start researching this stuff. When I get ready for the full restoration this winter, I want to be ready.
 

concept10

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This Starcraft thing is addicting. I'm always thinking about what to do next. I'm not ready to do a full restore right now, even though I want to do a lot, but I want the boat to stay on the water throughout the summer with minimal problems.

I didn't think the transom was safe and I lost three weekends, but it's done now. My biggest current issues are over with. I took the lower unit into the shop for service and didn't put it back right. I'm kinda embarrassed, but when I shifted into forward, the boat went into reverse and vice versa. The boat also vibrated when going forward at low speeds. I had the shifting 180 degrees out of sync!

I was thankfully helped yesterday by a great post over here: http://forums.iboats.com/showthread.php?t=476080 Thanks again Max!

I still have some issues to sort out, so here's my current plan:

1. Address fuel starvation issues: Hopefully this may be solved with a new fuel hose and primer bulb.

2. Electrical system: Unreliable. This is my trade, so I plan to make it awesome... Two battery system, with circuit breaker, fuse block and 1-2 battery switch. LED interior lights, one or two combo gauges for tach, etc.

3. Fishfinder/GPS combo: Humminbird 597 ci HD.... gotta have it

4. Plastic trailer fenders: I can hardly get in/out of the boat!

5. Front casting deck: I've already started making templates.

6. Seat for front casting deck, and maybe one more in the back.


Will this madness ever end?

- Tracey
 

ezmobee

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2. Electrical system: Unreliable. This is my trade, so I plan to make it awesome... Two battery system, with circuit breaker, fuse block and 1-2 battery switch. LED interior lights, one or two combo gauges for tach, etc.

I'll be watching that part with interest as I'm at that stage with mine right now.

Will this madness ever end?
Nope ;)
 

heyyou325

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Concept I want to apologize for hi jacking this thread, but since MichaelP addressed the painting over epoxy here, I thought I'd mention I did a little research with painting people and added it to my thread on my 74 jet boat. It should, with should being a key word, be possible. Supposedly you need to add the primer to slightly tacky epoxy, with spraying being the way discussed most. Rolling was addressed to tho.
And I understand the will it never end. I keep finding things I have to have for this new boat I haven't even had on the water yet. It may sink, probably not but no guarantees. My wife keeps reminding me of all the things. And as for the shifter I had an old wooden boat years ago that after I worked on it, at home, I got to the middle of the lake, and when you shifted in reverse it went in reverse, but when you put it in forward the shifting lever separated and you were just there. Always had a kicker since then. Must have been about 5 miles from where I could get to shore with only one paddle. I am going to have to start on electrical soon myself. I want a isolater switch put in to save one battery to start the boat motor, and need to add some extra lights for if I get stuck out after dark, again. Your fuel starvation could just be o rings in the line where it hooks to the tank, or outboard. They get dry when not in use and crack.
 

concept10

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Concept I want to apologize for hi jacking this thread, but since MichaelP addressed the painting over epoxy here, I thought I'd mention I did a little research with painting people and added it to my thread on my 74 jet boat. It should, with should being a key word, be possible. Supposedly you need to add the primer to slightly tacky epoxy, with spraying being the way discussed most. Rolling was addressed to tho.
And I understand the will it never end. I keep finding things I have to have for this new boat I haven't even had on the water yet. It may sink, probably not but no guarantees. My wife keeps reminding me of all the things. And as for the shifter I had an old wooden boat years ago that after I worked on it, at home, I got to the middle of the lake, and when you shifted in reverse it went in reverse, but when you put it in forward the shifting lever separated and you were just there. Always had a kicker since then. Must have been about 5 miles from where I could get to shore with only one paddle. I am going to have to start on electrical soon myself. I want a isolater switch put in to save one battery to start the boat motor, and need to add some extra lights for if I get stuck out after dark, again. Your fuel starvation could just be o rings in the line where it hooks to the tank, or outboard. They get dry when not in use and crack.

I want to get a kicker also, been pretty much looking everyday. As far as the electrical, let's start planning this thing and get it done.
 

heyyou325

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The kicker can be a life saver in more ways than one. Can't really start on my wiring til I get the side panels ready to reinstall. Plus mines is up on blocks now for painting so I can't get in it. I was thinking of a simple isolator to protect one battery for the big motor. I usually think of a bunch of new words that my wife doesn't like while wiring things, or fixing wiring. Simple is best for me. Still not sure If I'm going to get a kicker motor, or an electric one. Been leaning in that direction for price, but would prefer about a 10 hp gas. 4 cycle is just too spendy at the moment tho.
 

concept10

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I haven't updated this thread in some time so, here's some news on my part:

I've been taking the boat out pretty much every chance I get since the transom replacement, at least 30 or more trips to various lakes. I've installed a new fish finder and the awesome Minnkota Power Drive V2 trolling motor.

When the weather was forecast for 70 degs. in December, I knew I had to make a trip. I launched at a local lake around 10am and drove around all day, no problems. The Mercury 65 was holding up well and reliable as usual. Around 4pm, I was riding around looking for another spot and I noticed the engine slowing down a bit. This usually indicates that I need to change fuel tanks, and I slowed down and made the switch to my second fuel tank. This normally doesn't stop the engine, but for some reason it did.

It took me at least 20-30 mins to get the engine running stable again. I got back up to speed and when I reached around 27 mph on GPS, about 30 secs after taking off, all I heard was a loud CLUNK! I immediately knew something bad happened and dropped the trolling motor to make it back to the ramp (which took an hour @ 2.0 mph). When I made it back I took the cowl off and there it was, metal pieces falling out of the cowl and a freaking HOLE in the block. You've guessed right: THROWN ROD.

To make a long story short, being down in the dumps, I started craigslist searching for a replacement outboard within a 300 mile radius.

I've been wanting a 85 Evinrude for sometime now for more power and TnT. I saw some 90HP Mercs on some glass boats for sale and almost went and got a glasser for $375 with the 90 Merc.

I ended up finding a 85 'rude for $300! They normally list around these parts anywhere from $500-1200. The bad part is that the 'rude was removed from the boat and was sitting on a patio for god knows how long. The gentleman told me the engine runs good, so since he was a mechanic, I took his word.

The engine did not have any controls, so I took the shifter, harness and cables from my prior bass boat project that is still sitting in the yard.

After figuring out the key switch and mounting the motor on the SC, it took me about 10 mins to get it running! It would have started a bit quicker, but the choke was on!

A busy weekend all around. Only one fish caught, but I ended up with the motor I've been searching for the last six months.

Now I figure out what I need to do to get the 'rude running correctly (water pump, lower unit oil change).

I can't wait to get this thing back on the lake! Who said you had to stop in the Winter?
 

64osby

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Who said you had to stop in the Winter?

10" of snow, 20 degrees, 11 with windchill here today. I think I'll let the boat stay winterized and keep the wood stove burning.

Great to see your taking the bull by the horns and keeping the boat on the water. Sorry to hear about the Merc, good choice on the Rude.
 

ezmobee

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Nice deal on the Evinrude. What year is it?
 

concept10

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Nice deal on the Evinrude. What year is it?

The year is 1978. Seems like a good model year for my use so far. No electric shift! All of the controls from the Evinrude V6 200 XP sitting in my garage work! I'm still in shock!

The only thing that i'm unsure of is the steering. It seems I may be able to keep the same steering, but the hydraulic steering on the 200 look tempting!
 

ezmobee

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'78 should be a great motor. That's right on the changeover year from the old to the new style TnT. Does yours have the rams on the outside of the mounting bracket? or integrated within the bracket? Hydraulic steering would be overkill. A brand new rack system with cable can be had for $120 that would work great with that motor.
 

concept10

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'78 should be a great motor. That's right on the changeover year from the old to the new style TnT. Does yours have the rams on the outside of the mounting bracket? or integrated within the bracket? Hydraulic steering would be overkill. A brand new rack system with cable can be had for $120 that would work great with that motor.

ez - the rams are in the inside of the mounting bracket, similar to modern outboards. Turns out that the cable for my steering system is not long enough for the new outboard, since it uses the steering link instead of the transom mount.

I tried to use the SeaStar hydraulic steering from the bass boat, and the cylinder is too long (for bigger Evinrudes, I guess). I am currently searching for a replacement as you suggested!
 

shadetree_fish

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Hey concept???
UHHHH, hows the Boat coming? and yes soon as Im done with SC we'll have to take it to Texoma to chase some stripers, I love that lake! even though I live 15mins. from 3 marinas at Eagle mountain lake and about 3 hundred yards from Marine creek lake!
 

concept10

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Hey concept???
UHHHH, hows the Boat coming? and yes soon as Im done with SC we'll have to take it to Texoma to chase some stripers, I love that lake! even though I live 15mins. from 3 marinas at Eagle mountain lake and about 3 hundred yards from Marine creek lake!

This boat is running well now. I'm going to keep it as is while I work on the 18' SS. As far as Texoma is concerned, we could sure make that trip, I live that lake myself! I went up last year about three times. The last time I went up, the waves knocked around the 16' a lot, and thats one of the reasons I bought the 18 footer. Thanks for stopping by. I'm always looking for boat guys in this area.
 
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