Maybe a good project or parts.

[alldodge]

Did this rig make it to it`s new home? Just curious.

Not yet, the current plan is we are going to French Lick for Easter, and will bring the car trailer. Will load it up and have it home the day after.

All the distance is the issue and so many other projects going on

 

[alldodge]

Here it is getting ready for the ride home. Had it strapped down then found I needed to move it some more forward due to no tongue weight. Didn't retake the pic


In KY , my 23 footer next to the little guy





HIN is CBC 27924 maybe its a 1972 vintage


Figure I'll start another thread in the restore section when I get around to working on it

 

[GA_Boater]

Wow - A 2 month long road trip to bring home one cool looking oldie. Hope you won't have too much work ahead of you.

 

[alldodge]

Thanks, hull looks OK, shows signs of spider cracking in the gelcoat but otherwise going to need some work

Just found this link for a PDF file put together by Mutineer group in yahoo http://mutineer15.org/files/43086625.pdf

They guess that mine is a 1974 by the serial number

 

[bruceb58]

Wow! That looks nice!

 

[Frank Acampora]

Judging by the engine It may be a couple of years later. The engine is a 2 piece lower unit with the tapered tail midsection. I may not be correct but that midsection was made around 75-77. In 78 Chrysler went to the more efficient one piece lower unit.

Your trailer is not as you put it a basket case. I have had several just like it. You are missing the struts from the axle to the frame. These were about 3/4 tubular steel about 4-5 feet long. There were clips the held the springs to the axle and upper "U" shaped mount. These always rusted out and, of course it appears that you are missing the shock absorbers which held everything together. I replaced the clips with two pieces of tubular steel welded to a plate, which I then attached to the upper mount and the axle to act a spring perches. With this modification and a foreign car shock the trailer will be quite serviceable.

BTW: The reason that leaf spring trailers do not have shocks is because the inter-leaf friction provides enough damping force. Coil springs do not have inter leaf friction and thus require shocks.

 

[alldodge]

Thanks Frank, I have most if not all the parts to the trailer (struts, fenders, stuff), they are inside the boat. The engine has only 4 bolts holding the head in place so I hope the other bolts are in the boat somewhere. Its missing a lot of bolts trailer and other places.

 

[Frank Acampora]

Head bolts are 5/16 X18. You can buy grade 8 from Fastenal. sometimes from Home depot or Lowes. Sears will also have them. If I remember correctly, the bolts are an odd length probably because Chrysler got a deal on 100,000 of 1/8 inch shorter. Just go up to the next 1/4 inch length.

I can not make out in the photos if the engine is a 105 or a 120. If it is a 120, double check to be certain it is NOT a Magna Power II.

Also, that lower unit is getting difficult to find props to fit. They are the thrust pin 18 spline type. None available from manufacturers. Some on ebay but most are way overpriced. The two piece lower is (as I have proved in a post a couple of years ago) About 3 MPH slower than the one piece. If in the future you are interested in converting (assuming the engine block is running well. you can swap to a one piece lower if you change the midleg. This can be done with the engine still mounted on the transom. Not only do you gain some speed but you have a better selection of props and they are easier to find.

 

[Tnstratofam]

Congrats on getting her home safely. Looking forward to seeing her brought back to life. I'll be keeping an eye out for the resto thread when you get started. Again a nice looking hull, and glad to see her getting a second chance.

 

[3rdtimesthecharm]

Charlie`s Marine in Evansville,In has a lot of Holsclaw trailer parts. I heard he bought everything when they went belly-up.

 

[alldodge]

Thanks guys, hope to get around to if after my cruiser. The motor cover list it as a 105 same as the hull

 

[Frank Acampora]

Just for your basic info: The 105 was Chryslers all purpose engine, was made for a number of years and put on almost everything--just like the Merc 1150 was the basic Merc that you put on everything.

HOWEVER: Understand that the 105 was never one hundred and five horsepower. It was rated at the powerhead. In the mid 1980s when NMMA decreed that ALL outboards will be rated at the prop, Chrysler simply downrated the four cylinder 105 to 90 horsepower. SO: Up until about 1982-4 (I don't remember the exact year) Chrysler made a three cylinder 90 that actually delivered about 75 ponies and after that year they made a four cylinder 90 that actually delivered 90 HP.

I have a three cylinder 90 that I ported and carbureted. It does deliver a true 90 HP at the prop and will run with the three and four cylinder Mercury 90s. I also have a 105 that I swapped manifolds and carbs on and it delivers somewhere between 90 and 100 horsepower. I swapped the small WB carbs for the much larger TC carbs and did gain a couple of HP. SO: If you want to gain a couple of horsepower for cheap bucks, buy a junker Chrysler 120 (with TC carbs--they made one model with WB carbs) 125, or 140 or Force 120-125 and swap the carbs and manifolds onto your 105.

 

[alldodge]

Thanks, good info. Have this thread book marked so when I get around to doing things I can look back.

Do you know the difference between the 105 and 115 Conqueror boats

 

[Frank Acampora]

With the "almost" tri-hull (I forget the model name) the numbers referred not to length but to usable cubic feet of volume inside the cockpit. The 105 and 115 MAY refer to the same--useable cubic feet inside the cockpit. This is a question best answered by Franz or Dave Kain--Dave@hurrikain or at The Chrysler Crew forum.