M'cruiser 470 timing cover drain plug question

mbjeeper

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1979 Mercruiser 470.
Yesterday I noticed an antifreeze leak (big surprise, huh). I traced it to a small hole in the water pump. The hole is about 7 o'clock or so viewed from the front of the motor. I am assuming that it is a weep hole just like an automotive water pump. New water pump soon.
I had never seen an antifreeze leak on the motor before, and knowing a little about the cam seal problems on these motors, it freaked me out a little.
While I was looking for the source of the leak I remembered reading about a drip passage in the front of the engine that would indicate a seal failure on one of the cam seals. The previous owner had allegedly replaced the seals, and from the amount of RTV on the cover I can see that it has been off.
I couldn't find a drip passage at the bottom of the timing cover, but I did find a brass plug that is almost directly under the water pump.
Reason tels me that this is NOT the drip passage, and is in fact a coolant drain for the closed system, but the pessimist in me believes it possible that the PO plugged this passage with a brass plug to ensure that no antifreeze would leak out if the seal failed.
My question is, where is the drip passage that would indicate that the cam seal had failed? And is the brass plug indeed a coolant drain?
(I loaned my manual to a friend at work who tore up his drive a couple of weeks ago, so I can't just look there.)
Sterndrives.com shows a picture of the 470 timing cover and the drip passage is labeled, but this is where the plug was, and later in the repair procedure it says to drain the cooling system through a brass plug in the bottom of the timing cover. (link: http://www.sterndrives.com/35.gif )
Any help appreciated.
 

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Re: M'cruiser 470 timing cover drain plug question

Been doing some more research and looking under the motor with a mirror. Looks like the weep hole IS the drip passage for the cam seal. Uh Oh.
Looks like tiime to replace the seals. The PO either lied or did a crappy job.
Now, does anyone have a part number or source for the redi sleeves that I will need for the cam? I'd like to be able to get them locally and a part # would really help. Plus I could have them before I tear down.
I just put one in the rear diff of my WW2 Willys jeep and it was like pulling teeth to get the local parts store to find it on their computer. Once I had a part number they had it in the next day (expensive little buggers).
Also, are the cam seals Mercruiser only parts or can I get them locally as well? Any part #s for them? Not too hard to imagine that Timken would have a seal for it. Should be able to get it at Auto Zone, Advance, or NAPA
I'd like to get the stuff together and do this job all in one day so the down time is minimized.
Anything else I should know about this repair before I start? Any other seals I should replace while I'm in there? (and can I get them locally?)
Do water pump impellers usually go bad? The boat runs 2/3 in the green on the temp gauge or lower.
While I am in there I might just put a temp gauge ( a real one, with numbers) on this engine. Anybody know what a good temp for these engines is?
Any info appreciated.
Greg
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Re: M'cruiser 470 timing cover drain plug question

I read somewhere else that 185 degrees is tops for this engine. Any agree or disagree?
Can anyone help out on the speedi sleeve and cam seal #s?
I'd love to get them ordered first thing in the morning.
Greg
 
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