Merc 115 runs rough throught rpm range

Tinker12

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Hi guys gals I have a 1984 2 stroke tower of power that while running it in the lake first time! At wot Suddenly started shuttering and could barly make it back to the launch so far I have checked spark
All good as far as firing
Cleaned the carbs because Top and bottom barly sucked air now better
Changed fuel pump diaphragm
Changed gas
New gas line/primer bulb
Checked compression 110 minus 5 on a couple but mechanic said I have low com pistons ???
Ran sea foam through carbs and put in gas
It still runs rough like it is missing or ignition I do not have dva or much knowlage of 2 strokes but when I advance timing? Via the rotating thing under flywheel it seems to be better no broken wires on that thing ether
Any ideas
 

Chris1956

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There is a timing and synch of Inline Mercs sticky in the Top Secret posting on this page. Idle pickup timing is 6* ATDC and max spark advance is 21*BTDC.
 

Tinker12

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I feel like it is not returning or advancing is this my triger or part of the stator. Has anyone ever had that self tentioner go bad?
 

Chris1956

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Gee, the trigger should be moved by a steel rod, from the throttle arm. See if it moves smoothly, and the timing is correct.
 

Tinker12

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Well I cleaned the crap out of the lineage it dose look like the bottom butterfly is not opening as much as the other 2 but only buy a few degrees like 10
 

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The carb throttle plates (butterfly) is adjustable. See where the plastic linkage connects the two carbs? The bolt that secures that linkage has a slot for adjustment. Set them to open and close at the same time.
 

Tinker12

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Cool that's what I figured just wasent sure if it was suposed to be that way I haven't realy had a chance to check under the flywheel or make a dva tester this hole thing started at 3/4 throttle though so I'm thinking it's electrical
 

Tinker12

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I followed this and it worked great not sure how it even started with it being so far out to begin with thanks loads guys
Re: 1984 mercury 115 timing

Here is the procedure Clams has kindly provided.

Manual specs are different for each but this is close enough to get them all REAL close. This assumes nothing is broken or "wrong" with it. This also assumes that the timing pointer is properly adjusted (if adjustable) to accurately read TDC of the #1 piston.

This basic procedure will work for all the 2/3/4/6 cylinder inlines from 1960 to 1988. It's not for the newer 3 and 4 cylinder loopers.

Engine off

Disconnect throttle cable

Pull throttle arm to full throttle and verify carbs open fully. Adjust main throttle stop so that the carbs are JUST hitting thier own little throttle stops. The idea here is that you want the screw stop and NOT the carbs acting as the "final stop" for your throttle lever.

Return the throttle to idle, carbs should be closed. Set all idle screws to 2 1/4 turns out from lightly seated.

Remove all plugs except #1, hook a timing light to #1. Then follow the narritive.

When the throttle is in the idle position the carbs should be fully closed and the ignition retarded. It the amount of retardation that determines your idle speed and is set later with the idle stop screw.

Timing Event One - throttle pickup.
As the throttle is advanced, the spark timing advances toward TDC and then to before TDC. As the timing is just passing TDC the 1st (minor)throttle pickup should hit and start to open the carbs. Use the timing light. Adjust the tang or trigger screw to make this a reality. All of them are speced different, but if the 1st pickup hits at 3-4 degrees BTDC advance - you win. Use the timing light with a friend cranking it to complete this setting.

Timing Event Two - max advance.
As you continue to advance the throttle the timing will advance while the carbs slowly open a bit more. The next adjustment is max advance, this is the point where the distibutor (or trigger) can advance no more. Set the max-advance stop to 21 degrees for "direct charge" inlines and 34 degrees for the older crossflows. Use the light, - err to the side of caution.

Right after max advance, further throttle motion should cause the second throttle pickup to hit and open the carbs to full. You already set that -now verify it.

Leave the throttle cable disconnected and go to the water. Leave the boat strapped to the trailer and back it in so it's deep enought to run. Have a friend crank it while you operate the choke and throttle. Warm it up at 1500 rpms's.

When "warm" adjust the idle stop screw for about 800 rpm and then ajust your idle needle(s) in (one at a time) till the motor stumbles. Quickly backing it out 1/2 turn from "stumble" will usually save it from needing a re-start. Do that for all the idle screws. Re-set idle stop for 800.

Now have your friend put it in gear (make SURE you are on the transom NOT in the water) and reset your idle stop for as low as you can get it. 500-600rpm is great if your old reeds will let it idle that low in gear. Now, re-adjust the idle screws, in to stumble, then 1/2 turn out. When you've gone back and forth with that a few times and have it "perfect" - adjust each one out 1/4 turn.

Reset the idle stop so that it's about 700-800 out of gear and 500-600 in gear. Sometimes bad reeds won't let you get that low, you've GOT to get it under 1000 in neutral (worst case) to avoid beating up your lower unit when you shift into gear, even 1000 is "bad" but like I said "worst case".

Now adjust (and hook up)the throttle cable so that with the shifter in neutral, there is light to moderate pressure holding the throttle arm against the idle stop.

Take the boat off the trailer and go out in the water. Try the hole shot. If it falls on it's face try adjusting the idle screws out 1/4 turn at a time (all of them together) till you can get a hole shot. You can kind of do this on the trailer at the ramp, but it's not really safe for you, the boat, or the tow vehicle.

You're done.

-W
 
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