Merc 150 V-6 idle problems

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Re: Merc 150 V-6 idle problems

It is very hard to diagnose on 6 cyl. But it sounds to me like the crank seals are leaking between cylinders. This will cause it to run lean on those two cylinders and idle like athree legged dog. As far as the reeds I dont think that is your problem. If the crank seals are leaking you will loose crank case pressure. Esssentialy you are just pushing crank case pressure between the cylinders instead of positive pressure pushing the fuel out of the crank case into the cylinder. On this model with three carbs it is hard to diagnose. On a motor with a carb per cylinder it is much easier to find this problem. Also if you see any sputer out of the reeds this can also be caused by crank case leak. Think about it. If the reeds are partialy wore and need slightly more pressure to seal them completly plus you have next to 0 crank case pressure because it all went to the adjoining cylinder then there is not enough crank case pressure to close the reed completly. This would normally not be the case. One easy way to see if the fuel is spitting back through reeds at all is to place a timing light on that cylinder and shine it right in the carb throte. It will cause a strobe light effect and catch that fuel right in mid air coming out. Bad thing is this would mean a complete teardown to diagnose. Hope ya solve it without that happening. Good luck
 

dicktaber

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Re: Merc 150 V-6 idle problems

I like the timing light idea and will give it a try. With regard to the crankcase seal issue, just thinking out loud here, but wouldn't you see that in a compression test (leaking crankshaft seal = low pressure developed in crankcase = less mixture available to be compressed by piston)?
 
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Re: Merc 150 V-6 idle problems

no this will not show up in the compression test. The compression test is really a very crude test. The cylinder will still draw enogh air to make the compression test result ok.
 

dicktaber

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Re: Merc 150 V-6 idle problems

MMTech--<br />I got the name of a local Mercury Master Tech who comes highly recommended, we talked, and he says that 1 hour's labor ($70)will allow him to get a good idea of what's going on. My boat is at his shop right now. Hoping for the best, and I will post with the outcome...
 

dicktaber

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Okay, I had the day off Friday, so I dropped the boat off Friday first thing in the morning. Stopped by mid-day and saw one of the kids in the back doing the compression check on it. By Friday evening, no call, so I called back. They said that the tech working my boat was gone for the weekend. Called back Saturday, talked to the owner Mr. Master Tech. He says that I'm getting intermittent spark on #5, and they'd check some more Monday. He called back Monday p.m., and said that he recommends a new switch box, $215 plus 1.5 hours labor. I went in and talked to him in person, and asked him: If I pay full pop for the box, and your labor, if that doesn't fix it, where are we then? Well, he says, then there may be something else wrong with it...bottom line is, I'd own a new switch box and labor. After his assertions that he has a hell of a lot more and better troubleshooting equipment and far more experience than I do (all of which I conceded) he's not confident enough in his assessment to guarantee his troubleshooting, and we're back to throwing parts at it. I could have done that myself. Only good part is he stuck with the original one hour labor charge. I know (suspect) that he spent more time than that so I shouldn't complain. I know it's a tough business to make a buck in but I've seen it too many times, and I spent a good chunk of my life fixing motorcycle and airplanes for someone else. The customer should not finance your experiments, or subsidize your employee's OJT program. <br /> Okay, off the soapbox. I'm going to buy a switchbox and I'll report back.
 

bshores

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Re: Merc 150 V-6 idle problems

Knot2much-<br />I am very interested in your outcome as I have a similar problem. Was wondering if you had an update? Hopefully good news.
 

dicktaber

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Sorry, no update yet. Box is installed, just have to get out on the lake and find out if it did the trick...I'll post back when I have an answer.
 

LubeDude

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Re: Merc 150 V-6 idle problems

Originally posted by bshores:<br /> Knot2much-<br />I am very interested in your outcome as I have a similar problem. Was wondering if you had an update? Hopefully good news.
Me too, Im on the edge of my seat!!! :eek: :eek:
 

dicktaber

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Re: Merc 150 V-6 idle problems

Okay guys--<br />Sorry for the delay in posting with an update, but I have not been able to get the boat out until yesterday. She's still a little unhappy when cold, but once warm, I drove around for about an hour at different throttle settings, never stalled once. Ran at idle in no-wake zones without dying, responded well to throttle. Both air and water temp have dropped significantly since last time out, so I don't know if this is a factor or not. Anyway, I got my switchbox at Seiler Marine, and I would recommend them--they were quick on the delivery and cost $135 compared to about $250 quoted at the Merc dealer. Best of luck to all.
 
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