Merc 7.5 Carb and Lower End

Axeman

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Hi there.<br /><br />I have a Merc 7.5 and it has been sitting for a year or so. After not being able to start it I took the carb off and looked in the intake.<br /><br />The venturi was twisted around and I am sure that was not helping so I took it out and sure enough the two tabs that normally hold it in place were broken off.<br /><br />I have the new part on order. So my first question is which way does it go in? With the rounded end pointing towards the engine and the flat end pointing towards the air intake? I went to a dealer and looked at their "exploded view" to see if I could tell and I cant.<br /><br />My other question is regarding the lower end. Is it supposed to be full of gear oil or someting? Where would I check the level of fluid and what other tips can anyone give? <br /><br />I have only had this motor for 3 years. Ran it for 2 summers and then stored it for over a year. So I have no idea what maintenance the old owner did but I want to make sure I am doing everything to keep this sucker runnning. The carb looks very clean and I thing the venturi will solve my starting problem but I want to avoid any others.<br /><br />When I first got it I ran it in a big bin in the back yard when I changed the sparks etc and the water in the bin got quite the scummy oily layer in it. so I am not sure if it might be leaking etc.<br /><br />any help would be apreciated.<br /><br />Thanks
 

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Re: Merc 7.5 Carb and Lower End

Welcome to the board...<br /><br />Too bad there are not any more Friday the 13th this year!<br /><br />First off, the Merc 7.5 is a two stroke. Oil in water is normal. But you need to change your Lower Unit oil.<br /><br />There are two screws. An air purge(top and a bottom screw). Before you do anything, go to the marina and buy two drain gaskets(about $1), buy a LU pump ($8 at Princess auto, $12 at Canuck Tire) and LU oil, not Type C.<br /><br />Take off the top one and bottom one. Let it all drain out. If its milky, you have water in the LU. Do a search here on how to resolve.<br /><br />Put the pump in the bottom and pump until fresh oil comes out the top put screw back in with fresh gasket tight, pull bottom pump out and put screw in with fresh gasket.<br /><br />The 7.5 have a smallish water pump. I would definitely change the water pump before anything.<br /><br />About $100 at the repair shop.<br /><br />For your carb, get a manual!!!!!<br /><br />Tx.<br /><br />Joe
 

dajohnson53

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Re: Merc 7.5 Carb and Lower End

Originally posted by Axeman:<br /> Hi there.<br /><br />I have a Merc 7.5 and it has been sitting for a year or so. After not being able to start it I took the carb off and looked in the intake.<br /><br />The venturi was twisted around and I am sure that was not helping so I took it out and sure enough the two tabs that normally hold it in place were broken off.<br /><br />I have the new part on order. So my first question is which way does it go in? With the rounded end pointing towards the engine and the flat end pointing towards the air intake? I went to a dealer and looked at their "exploded view" to see if I could tell and I cant.
go to mercruiserparts.com and look at their exploded views. It might show you, although I doubt their graphics are better than the parts guy at your local dealer. You'll need info on your motor such as serial number and maybe the type of carb. If you can't tell, I'd ask the guy in the repair shop of the place you buy the venturi.<br /><br />This and all your questions below will be answered if you buy a service/shop manual for your engine. I recommend it. I have both a Seloc and a Mercury shop manual for my 110/9.8 hp (both also cover the 7.5) and have found both adequate for basic carburetor and lower unit maintenance (see below). You can probably get either or both at your local dealer and there are many on-line sources.<br /><br />
My other question is regarding the lower end. Is it supposed to be full of gear oil or someting? Where would I check the level of fluid and what other tips can anyone give?
There are two screw plugs - one for filling and the other for venting and checking the level of the oil. The shop manual will show you exactly where the screws are. You drain by removing both screws. You fill by pumping oil into the bottom hole until it comes out the top hole. You inspect the old oil for signs of water intrusion and metal flakes. You use marine-grade gear oil which you can pick up at the dealer or at any place marine oils (e.g. the TCW3 50:1 oil you're using) are sold.<br /><br />
I have only had this motor for 3 years. Ran it for 2 summers and then stored it for over a year. So I have no idea what maintenance the old owner did but I want to make sure I am doing everything to keep this sucker runnning. The carb looks very clean and I thing the venturi will solve my starting problem but I want to avoid any others.
To me the most basic maintenance, especially for a motor with unknown history, is to change the water pump impeller, change and check lower unit oil, change and check spark plugs (make sure you get the right ones in there - the ones in there from previous owner might not be the right ones), clean and re-build the carburetor. All covered in the shop manual and easy to do.<br /><br />
When I first got it I ran it in a big bin in the back yard when I changed the sparks etc and the water in the bin got quite the scummy oily layer in it. so I am not sure if it might be leaking etc.<br /><br />any help would be apreciated.<br /><br />Thanks
With a 2 stroke outboard, the exhaust contains alot of fuel/oil mixture residue - and most of the exhaust comes out under water through the prop. Therefore if you run it in a barrel, it's normal to get quite an oil slick on the water, even sludge if you run it enough.
 

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Re: Merc 7.5 Carb and Lower End

Yeah I cant go to the mercury site as it is pre 1980 and they dont have them online for those ones.<br /><br />The exploded views are from mercury so i guess I am looing for someone who can read my cryptic description and tell me :) <br /><br />I am hoping that when I put it in, that the hole for the fuel spigott will only line up when it is in one way and not the other. casue that would be easy :) <br /><br />I will change the oil in the lower next weekend and look at getting a manual if I can find one. I had one of those Haynes manuals but they cover too many engines and are too vague.so I sent it back. Please recomend a good manual if you know of one or a publisher.<br /><br />I will definatly look into the water pump as well once I get it running.<br /><br />Thank for the info.
 

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Re: Merc 7.5 Carb and Lower End

Originally posted by Axeman:<br /> Yeah I cant go to the mercury site as it is pre 1980 and they dont have them online for those ones.<br /><br />The exploded views are from mercury so i guess I am looing for someone who can read my cryptic description and tell me :) <br /><br />I am hoping that when I put it in, that the hole for the fuel spigott will only line up when it is in one way and not the other. casue that would be easy :) <br /><br />I will change the oil in the lower next weekend and look at getting a manual if I can find one. I had one of those Haynes manuals but they cover too many engines and are too vague.so I sent it back. Please recomend a good manual if you know of one or a publisher.<br /><br />I will definatly look into the water pump as well once I get it running.<br /><br />Thank for the info.
 

dajohnson53

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Re: Merc 7.5 Carb and Lower End

Originally posted by Axeman:<br /> Yeah I cant go to the mercury site as it is pre 1980 and they dont have them online for those ones.<br /><br />The exploded views are from mercury so i guess I am looing for someone who can read my cryptic description and tell me :) <br /><br />I am hoping that when I put it in, that the hole for the fuel spigott will only line up when it is in one way and not the other. casue that would be easy :) <br /><br />I will change the oil in the lower next weekend and look at getting a manual if I can find one. I had one of those Haynes manuals but they cover too many engines and are too vague.so I sent it back. Please recomend a good manual if you know of one or a publisher.<br /><br />I will definatly look into the water pump as well once I get it running.<br /><br />Thank for the info.
I'm not talking about the Mercury site - I'm talking about mercruiserparts.com, which is a site operated by BAM marine. They have exploded views for mercury outboards, way back. Mine is a '74 and it's in there, and they go further back than that into the 60s. You'll need your serial number.<br /><br />That said, I have a 9.8 hp and it has a plastic venturi in the carb. I don't know if it's the same venturi or even the same orientaiton. You're description of the venturi is a little confusing to me leading me to think it's different. Mine is a small tube with two wings coming off it. The wings have a little point on one side of both tips and the other side of both is flat. To my memory (with out looking), the point goes toward the choke plate (not the throttle plate) - in other words, away from the engine. I do seem to recall that it could fit either way (again not sure!).<br /><br />What this does is orient the little tube which has a fairly sharp taper on one end and a gradual taper on the other. I definitely can't remember which taper points in and which points out. Makes me think it would be interesting to put the venturi in each way and see if it makes a noticable difference and when (e.g. idle vs. WOT). Probably someone who understands how carbs work (better than me!) could tell you how to orient it based on the taper.<br /><br />As for the shop manual, like I said, either the Seloc or the Merc. manuals work fine for my '74 9.8 HP for what I've done so far: carb rebuild, water pump, lower unit oil. Many recommend the Merc. manual, but if you can find a Seloc locally it might suffice for what you need. <br /><br />As for the impeller - just make sure the thing doesn't over heat if you wait to service/replace it - in case it's gone bad since last time you ran it (sitting idle can mess it up).<br /><br />Good luck hope this helps.
 

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Re: Merc 7.5 Carb and Lower End

If there is water pissing out of it then the impeller is working right?
 

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Ok I looked at the site and it is the same diagrams as the dealer had. Thanks for the info. looks like good stuff.
 

dajohnson53

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Originally posted by Axeman:<br /> If there is water pissing out of it then the impeller is working right?
Yes, probably adequately. The danger with old ones is that they don't pump quite well enough due to wear and tear. Also, they're rubber and I've heard that old ones can degrade and break apart. They then quit working (could cause problem at a bad time). Also the little pieces could clog passageways. So the conventional wisdom is to approach the impeller as a preventive maintenance, scheduled, routine thing. But for the time being, if water's coming out the tell tale, it's probably OK for getting the thing running. I'd still change it sooner rather than later.
 

dajohnson53

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Originally posted by Axeman:<br /> Ok I looked at the site and it is the same diagrams as the dealer had. Thanks for the info. looks like good stuff.
I thought so. Actually I'll bet your dealer's are sharper. My advice (which would be vastly trumped by anyone else's who actually has expertise - my only expertise is that I've put together my carb twice) is to put the pointy tips towards the choke plate. But I'd also not be shy at all about asking a mechanic at the dealer I bought the part at. If the parts guy coldn't tell me. Good luck and please post back any knowledge you pick up on this, I'd appreciate it.
 

Axeman

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I plan to find a manual and then order the parts and get it changed sooner than later :) <br /><br />Thanks
 
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