Mercontrol question

gatorman55

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I have a 1978 80 mercury with the 2 leaver control box. when i give it full gas the motor throttle only travels about 1/2 the distance it should. Can anyone tell me how I can correct this problem? Is it in the control box ? It seems as though the cable does not have enough travel in it. Not sure if something is just not working correctly or if I am way out of adjustment.
 
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Maxz695

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Re: Mercontrol question

You may be out of adjustment. The cable may be worn. There may be wear in the shifter parts. You can try to adjust the barrel at the engine to compensate but if it is a worn cable or shifter malfunction replacement of the cable or repair or replacement of the shifter may be nessecary. Some added imfo is when the cable barrels get old they can crack and this might be the reason the cable is shifting and not holding in place and more than likely on the shifter end.
 

gatorman55

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Re: Mercontrol question

Thanks for your reply. The barrel connectors are in fine shape and the cables seam to work properly, so I am assuming I have an issue with teh control box. do you know of a sorce where I can find some type of manule for the control box? I have looked all over the outside of the box and do not see any type of numbers for a model type. If I were to get a replacemnet control box will my cables still work? do I need to be aware of anything other than is needs to be a Mercury control box? I have not taken the box apart yet but appreciate any and all input.
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Bondo

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Re: Mercontrol question

Ayuh,... Welcome Aboard,.... When ya say it's a 2 lever, is that the control lever, 'n a hi-idle lever,..??

Or a lever for the throttle, 'n another lever to shift it,..??

got a Picture of yer controller,..??
 
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Maxz695

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Be aware the is a barrel at the shifter end that may have been damaged.
 

halmc

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Re: Mercontrol question

Before opening a can of worms, as the control box is likely to turn out to be, I would disconnect both shift and throttle cables from the engine, have someone -- one to whom you can bark orders, so obviously not the one who cooks dinner and keeps your bed warm at night -- move the lever or levers through their complete range and observe the movement of the cables to ensure that it is correct.

My limited experience tells me that it is an adjustment at the engine end and nothing more.

You did not say, BTW, whether the half way throttle movement opens the throttle half way, or all the way.

One last note: many engines have an interlock that prevents WFO operation in reverse. Maladjustment of that interlock would produce what you are experiencing, assuming that you're getting about half throttle plate deflection. But again, this would not likely be the reslut of anything int he box.

Best thing to do, and do it BEFORE you open the control box, is to get the cables a-loose from the engine and see what your control box is doing with the cables.
 
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Maxz695

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Was this control working properly for you and then go out of adjustment? or is this like a newly purchased boat engine to you recently obatined? Good advice there halmc
 

gatorman55

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Re: Mercontrol question

You guys are great! Thanks so much for your help. First the two leavers are, one for fast idel and one for everything else. Second, when I bought the boat almost a year ago it was a basket case and had been sitting for 7 years. New floor , new transom and alot of elbow grease and I got it back togeather. The previous owner said it would idel but once he gave it any gas it would not run. I installed all new hardware to the fuel system, hose, fittigs etc. Installed new fuel filter, new plugs, new water pump, new lower unit oil, new built in fuel tank. When I push the throttle to full forward(not the fast idle) the travel of the cables at the engine is only moving the throttle arm about 1/2 way towards full throttle. I can not get enough adjustment with the barrel nuts because I do not have enough movement with the cable at the engine side. I would be happy to send some photos but I am in San Diego this week and next and will not be back at the boat until next weekend. Hopefully I have done a little better job of explaining myself.

Thanks again for all of your input:)
 
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Maxz695

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Sounds like it,s at the throttle end to me. You might wanna take it apart and have a look it will have to removed from the boat to inspect the cables in any case at this point
 

ajgraz

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Re: Mercontrol question

If you have the MerControl I think you have and that I have:
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It has cams and swing arms inside made of soft metal that bind and eventually wear out or break. I have had to replace many of my internals (usually not too crazy expensive a job).

Where in San Diego are you going to be? LMK if you want to come by Sat or Sun 1/26 or 1/27 and see what the inside is supposed to look like.
 

oldman570

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Re: Mercontrol question

Is there any chance that you have them hooked up reversed and causing your trouble. Dose the throtal cable and the distubetor move the full throw and the distrubetor move as far as it can before hitting the stop? JMO
O;dman570
 
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Maxz695

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Oldman570 brings up another good suggestion. Disconnect the cables and insure the cable moving first is hooked to the shifter and the other to the throttle as the shifter cable moves first to engage the LU. Very much worth looking into first.
 

gatorman55

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Re: Mercontrol question

I say that I checked to make sure the cables are hooked up correctly but I will verify that when I get back home. To answer oldmman570 no the throttle does not move full throw and that is the problem. It only move about 1/2 way. I hope to meet with ajgraz this weekend here in San Diego and see what he has done with his box. The photo he has attaced to his comment is the same control box I have. I am beginning to think that is where my problem lies. I again want to thak all of you for your help!
 
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Maxz695

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ajgraz is a very good person and I,m sure will help you with the issue.
 
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