Mercruiser 150 overheat

CaptRon66

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I was hoping to never have to place a post for overheating again. But my inline 6 is overheating on plane and the water is still cold in the bay. It gets past 160 after about a minute. Add about 3 min to that and it's getting near 180. Come off plane(didn't want to keep going) and it takes a long time for temp to come back down to about 140. The exhaust manifold and riser are running cool at all times. The hottest temp on the riser i could find with a IR gun was 143 on the outgoing side just above the rubber boot. I don't recall anything else on the water jacket areas of exhaust over 110 degrees. The exhaust ports where mated to the head were way freakin hot. Read over 300 degrees on 1 of them.

Here is what I've done so far:
Replaced water pump complete,upper,lower,impeller.(before boat was in water)
T-stat changed...twice. Housing checked for corrosion.It's ok.
Clear hose installed between incoming seawater and T-stat and another hose between T-stat housing and manifold. No bubbles in and a stream of tiny bubbles out.Ran in neutral at dock.
Checked wot at 3600. Prop will be replaced before next run.
Spark plugs are NGK BR6ES.
Briefly pulled incoming seawater hose off and it has flow and pressure. Have not done the flow test cited in the service manual yet. (15 sec at 1000 rpm while filling container)
Also checked with IR gun at temp sender and found 2 or 3 degree difference between gauge and IR.
Ignition timing adjusted and same was advancing although numbers were not compared to curves.
The water holes between the riser and manifold were open and clear prior to assembly.New riser. Manifold of unknown age previously run in fresh water. Did not cause over heat in past.
Compression between 152 & 158 on all cylinders before overheat...guess I better do this again.
No oil in water and there is oil pressure.


Ok. I think that's everything so far. It's driving me crazy. I'm going to do the flow test in the service manual although it cites a disclaimer for high speed over temp. Also going to remove the circulating pump to see if an automotive was used. Will pull the boat and check that hose between the outdrive and transom for kinks. If I can't find anything I'll double check the o-ring used when installing the drive and make sure it didn't slip out of position.

What am I missing? Could it be a bad head gasket? Water was getting into the cylinders on the hose(before launching). It was found quick and manifold changed out. It never hydro-locked. Does restricted exhaust ever run cool while on plane? From the several I've seen they were hot.I know it needs another prop but could that cause the temp to go up that quick? The engine is running great while on plane and at idle. Running even. No missing,pinging etc. Boat comes right out of the hole. I bought the engine from this guy who said the engine was rebuilt at a machine shop and then sat for about 9 years....and I was originally concerned about breaking in the cam. What do you guys think?
 

jerryjerry05

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Re: Mercruiser 150 overheat

If you changed everything and the riser is new and the manifold is a replacement but not new then I'd guess the manifold is full of corrosion.
It should flow as much water out as it takes in.Are the holes on the riser gasket right(possibly wrong)?
Check the block drains for crap.As it set for 9 years it might have set with sand or mud.J
 

CaptRon66

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Re: Mercruiser 150 overheat

The riser gasket is correct ,placed with the tab forward and holes line up.oem I always double check this when installing. 2 days ago I briefly put a garden hose on to the exhaust manifold with no hose clamp. Full blast on with the valve. Only a dribble leaked out of the hose with no clamp. The hose was just pushed on and did not pop up. It looked like it was flowing. Plus the manifold and riser are running cool on plane when the engine temp is 175. If the manifold or riser passages are plugged wouldn't the exhaust get hot? There is some crud when I open up the engine block drain. Had to use a nail once to get it going good.
 

jerryjerry05

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Re: Mercruiser 150 overheat

Circulation pump?? The only difference between marine and auto is the plate on the back.It's made of SS.
I don't think I've seen one go bad.Usually if they turn and they don't leak they are OK.
Anything caught in the exhaust downtube?The flapper caught in the bottom?
The sending unit the right one? J
 

CaptRon66

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Re: Mercruiser 150 overheat

I replaced the water shutter this year. It burnt last year when fogging an engine without outdrive. The old engine was cracked and I had thoughts of getting it stitched. Anyhow , I slipped ,fell and took a little longer than planned to shut the engine off and guess what..those flappers go pretty quick. But I did get both halves out. The circulating pump. I'm hoping an automotive pump will be found with its vanes rusted off. It's reaching...but possible.
 

bomar76

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Re: Mercruiser 150 overheat

Here is the importance of a circulating pump:

I don't even run one on my 385 Stroker, just a crossover.
No heat problems, ever.
 

ziggy

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Re: Mercruiser 150 overheat

ya've sure checked a lot of items to still be having troubles.
Checked wot at 3600. Prop will be replaced before next run.
this is listed in the troubleshooting guide in s/m 2 as a possible cause of overheat.

"Engine "laboring'' - at WOT, engine RPM below specifications. check for proper propeller and condition of boat bottom".

ya should be on the high side of 3900-4300 with a normal load. sounds like your on to it with a new prop for the next run.

a quick, easy inspection for a kinked water hose on the drive sounds good too.
 

CaptRon66

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Re: Mercruiser 150 overheat

I finally have the engine running below 160 degrees.I had propped down and that didn't change the overheat. Took off the engine circulating pump and found the small hole behind it plugged with crud. Cleaned it out and through it into the cylinder head. Ran water from the garden use into the t-stat housing while covering the big and small holes behind the circultaing pump. Something let loose inside while flushing and the flow increased very noticeably . Engine runs around 152-155 degrees but every once in awhile it hits 160 and then comes back down slowly (on long runs.) Have had it out several times and it sometimes goes no higher than 155. It seems like something is clogging intermittently. The engine is definately running hotter than the previous 2 in this boat with the same sender and guage. It used to get no hotter than 150. Should I be concerned ? At what temp is a raw water cooled engine considered overheating?
 
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