Mercruiser 4.3 L manifolds and Risers

nemo2011

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My engine is a 1989 mercruiser and have not been cleaned since then.
the boat was mainly in fresh water except for the past 10 years then just in and out and flushed after every use. Having said that would like opinions on if these have reached their life expectancy or can I still acid treat or should I bite the proverbial bullet and replace?
The risers look ok except one the port side has a lot of the metal eaten away at the boot end
and still haven't removed the manifolds.
 

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Re: Mercruiser 4.3 L manifolds and Risers

The risers look ok except one the port side has a lot of the metal eaten away at the boot end

Ayuh,... I'd think That's yer answer, right there....

If you don't think so,...
Go ahead, 'n Run 'em,... Roll the Dice....
 

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Re: Mercruiser 4.3 L manifolds and Risers

Hey Nemo,
I have a 1989 merc also that had the same problem. I would totally suggest looking into getting new ones. After a while of looking, I actually found a almost brand new pair of manifolds and Risers from somone off craigs list. I did find alot of people who were trying to sell me crap ones but I was diligent and kept looking and was able to find really clean ones. This totally mad a difference, just be careful. If you have the money then go new, but I would totally suggest getting them changed.. Good luck pal.. Welcome to the 1989 Merc Club.
 

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Re: Mercruiser 4.3 L manifolds and Risers

Hey Nemo,
I have a 1989 merc also that had the same problem. I would totally suggest looking into getting new ones. After a while of looking, I actually found a almost brand new pair of manifolds and Risers from somone off craigs list. I did find alot of people who were trying to sell me crap ones but I was diligent and kept looking and was able to find really clean ones. This totally mad a difference, just be careful. If you have the money then go new, but I would totally suggest getting them changed.. Good luck pal.. Welcome to the 1989 Merc Club.

Thanks guys!
I have been leaning to wards getting new but in the past it seemed to me risers and manifolds were given in to Rad shops where they would clean them up using a acid bath and steam/
. And was wondering if anyone had this done and did they have success with it.
Moving on further any one have any suggestions as to were a person might find reasonable manifolds and risers Gaskets etc!
thanks in advance all!!
 

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Re: Mercruiser 4.3 L manifolds and Risers

Well my new manifolds and elbows are on the way!
just have to get the hose fittings off the bottoms of the old manifolds.
 

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Just looked at the photo of the elbows. They look great, on the outside. But that's not where it counts, it's the inside. 10 years old... Changing them is a very wise decision. As for acid cleaning? IMHO... If they need acid cleaning, they need replacing....

Chris......
 

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Re: Mercruiser 4.3 L manifolds and Risers

Has anyone had to remove the angled brass hose fittings from old manifolds and elbows, I tried today and man them suckers are stuck!!
Any help would be appreciated
 

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Re: Mercruiser 4.3 L manifolds and Risers

Nemo,
Just buy new ones. They are cheap and you will most defiantly break the old ones anyway trying to get them out..
 

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yes Ifound that out
Nemo,
Just buy new ones. They are cheap and you will most defiantly break the old ones anyway trying to get them out..

Yes I found that out! applyed lots of heat but alas! still broke!
 

nemo2011

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Re: Mercruiser 4.3 L manifolds and Risers

anyone know where one might find 45 deg 1" od brass hose fittings for manifolds and elbows at a reasonable price.
local supplier wants like $68.00 each here!
 

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Whew you can buy em online for a bit cheaper but dang those are high.. I wonder why?
 

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Re: Mercruiser 4.3 L manifolds and Risers

The dealer price should only be about $47. If he's asking $68, we call that price gorging. The part number is 22-865159, try www.mercruiserparts.com

Chris..........
 

nemo2011

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The dealer price should only be about $47. If he's asking $68, we call that price gorging. The part number is 22-865159, try www.mercruiserparts.com

Chris..........

Still $47.00 that's a lot more than I'm willing to pay,going to look at modifying hoses instead!:mad:
 

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BTW thanks chris for the lead!
 

nemo2011

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Re: Mercruiser 4.3 L manifolds and Risers

Well my new elbows and manifolds arrived to-day.Do the new mating surfaces have to be scraped down to bare metal? IE - paint removed from new parts. i realize that the manifold gasket area on the block has to be cleaned off old gasket residue.
just wondering if a little paint will make a big difference!

SORRY Just found this online!:redface:

Cleaning and Preparations


Preparation is the most important part to making your new exhaust setup last. Follow these simple steps to insure that you get the best seal. Doing things right the first time will help protect your engine from water damage and having to go back and re-install later.

? Remove paint from gasket surfaces on your new parts using a razor blade and lacquer thinner. A gasket scrapper can also be used, but be careful to not damage or mar the surfaces. Then use compressed air to thoroughly blow debris out of exhaust passages and water jackets.
? Note that depending on the casting method, many new manifolds and risers come with bits of casting pieces left in their water jackets. This is not a sign of a defective part, it is just part of the casting process. It is a good idea to blow these pieces out prior to installing.
? Make sure the gasket surfaces on your head(s) are also clean, and scrape as necessary (be careful not to get debris down the ports).
? If reusing bolts, water fittings, or other parts, make sure they are clean of rust and in reusable condition. It is usually not a good idea to reuse lock washers, especially if they show any signs of corrosion, so replace those as necessary.
? Never reuse gaskets, they should always be replaced. If purchasing a part from me, examine the picture and description in the listing to see if the part comes with a gasket or not. If it does not, contact me and I can supply them.


Insallation

With all of your parts clean and ready to install, follow these steps and don't forget to torque down all bolts/nuts to the correct torque setting. Overtightened bolts can lead to threads getting stripped, cast parts cracking, or bolts breaking, and can void any warranty that the part carried.

? Manifold-to-head gaskets should be installed dry; do not use any gasket sealer, silicon, or other compounds.
? Riser and Elbow gaskets may require sealer depending on the type of gasket. Most gaskets purchased from me will not; however, thin gray paper gaskets will require a Permatex non-hardening sealant.
? Do not use anti-seize or lubricants on the threads of bolts or studs unless instructed to do so.
? Do not use stainless steel or grade 2 bolts except for in specific applications, they are generally too soft and will not hold a torque setting.
? When installing studs, use a red thread locking compound on the threads that will seat in the casting (not on the nut end).
? Follow your original manufacturer's service manual for specific torque settings when installing manifolds, risers, or elbows. If you do not have it, contact an original equipment dealer in your area (look up your engine manufacturer's website for a list of dealers). 35 or 40 ft-lbs is generally a safe setting for 3/8" grade-8 course-thread bolts. Be sure to torque evenly and in steps.
? Torque should be reset after initial startup, while the parts are still warm.
? When installing pipe fittings or plugs, do not over-tighten them. They need only be snug. And avoid using thread sealant tapes or compounds which contain Teflon.


Finishing up

Now that your new parts are installed and properly torqued, insure that all hose clamps and hoses are also connected and tight. Look over the bilge and engine to make sure you did not leave any tools or parts laying around.
 
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Re: Mercruiser 4.3 L manifolds and Risers

well I just received my new manifolds.elbows,gaskets etc now I have to prep them and install. Got these of off e-bay and they look really decent with all necessary fitttings,plugs etc except hose fittings Here is what they look like

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Re: Mercruiser 4.3 L manifolds and Risers

can anybody know the best manifolds for salt water?
 

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Re: Mercruiser 4.3 L manifolds and Risers

I am looking to install a fuel water separator in a different location(I had it mounted in the bilge)but would like to move it up. is there a "best place" for this filter I was thinking of possibly making a hanger out of 1/8" alum. and fastening to the exhaust manifold,same location as the starter solenoid.and near the fuel pump.
 
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