mercruiser outdrive disengaging under load?

subysti

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Not sure about this one. WHile pulling 1 adult and 2 kits boat ran fine. Shut down for 30 minutes. Now have 3 kids on tube. Boat idles and starts to pull fine but shen gaining speed right before planing speed it seems like the outdrive/prop disengages. I thought I lost my prop the first time because the engine starts to over rev. Tried again with the same exact result. We pulled in the kids and tube and with everyone on board it accelerated and got on plane fine. Before this I did notice a vibration and noise at low just above no wake speed and while turning. I already checked the gimble bearing, u-joints and engine alignment. U-Joints and gimble were fine, alignment needed some adjustment but is near perfect now. Any ideas? Lower unit?
 

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Re: mercruiser outdrive disengaging under load?

Sounds like it could be a shift cable issue.

When if seems like the prop disengages...does the prop stop spinning?
 

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Re: mercruiser outdrive disengaging under load?

yes it does. the first time I thought I lost the prop, stopped, checked it, still there, tried again, same thing. I figured this might also be related to the vibration and noise I seem to get at around 1500-1800 RPM and low speed.
 

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Re: mercruiser outdrive disengaging under load?

Could still be the prop. If the hub is spun, it will do exactly as you described. The prop shaft spins, but the prop doesn't.
 

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Re: mercruiser outdrive disengaging under load?

would that cause a vibration also? I did switch to another prop but both are used and reworked. Maybe time for me to actually break down and buy a new prop.
 

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Re: mercruiser outdrive disengaging under load?

Yes a damaged prop can (usually do) vibrate, it is off balance and spinning 1/2 to 3/4 of engine speed.

What is the condition of your prop? blades bent, dinged etc?

To test for prop slippage, grab an old bottle of nail polish (one the wife/GF doesn't like anymore), use it to mare the inner and outer parts of the hub. Go run it in the water and when it slips again, shut it off raise the drive and look at the marks. If they no longer line up, the prop hub is shot.

could also be cavitation/ventilation caused by damaged prop, that only shows up under extreme loading.

As for the new prop - check out the turning point Hustler/Legacy. They are hands down the best aluminum props on the market. There are gains to be had with SS, but you have to pay that stainless price. These are the same price as any competing aluminum prop.
 

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Re: mercruiser outdrive disengaging under load?

thanks for the info. seems the vibration stays with my 2nd prop. didn't get the lose of power but I was by myself this time.
 

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Re: mercruiser outdrive disengaging under load?

OK this happened again this weekend but more often. Seems to happen a lot more when towing someone. Now I'm concerned that it could be the engine coupler. Is there a way of checking the coupler? It happens more when turning and whipping a skier or tube but it still does it going straight and trying to accelerate.
 

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Re: mercruiser outdrive disengaging under load?

does it overheat, yes coupler, no, check the prop if spun, not spun dog is gone.
 

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Re: mercruiser outdrive disengaging under load?

If you can see the coupler sticking out of the bell housing, mark it just like marking the prop hub. Also check rear area of engine for fine black dust(rubber from bad coupler). I have had same issues once, from bad coupler, several times from prop hub slipping.
 

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Re: mercruiser outdrive disengaging under load?

OK this happened again this weekend but more often. Seems to happen a lot more when towing someone. It happens more when turning and whipping a skier or tube but it still does it going straight and trying to accelerate.

Ayuh,... You're Over-trimmed,+ turning too fast,+/ or have a Bad Prop....
It's Cavitating/ Ventalating,+ loosing Thrust...
 

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Re: mercruiser outdrive disengaging under load?

I hope you're correct with the over trimmed or bad prop. I've been told that replacing the engine coupler requires engine removal which I cannot do myself. What's a ball park on what a dealer would charge?
 

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Re: mercruiser outdrive disengaging under load?

I've been told that replacing the engine coupler requires engine removal which I cannot do myself. What's a ball park on what a dealer would charge?

Ayuh,... Don't worry about it,... It's Not the coupler,... It'll only Slip once, Maybe twice,+ it's GONE...
 

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Re: mercruiser outdrive disengaging under load?

I really hope you're right. I'm going to order a new prop. I figure thats the least expensive option right now and I can always use another prop anyways.
 

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Re: mercruiser outdrive disengaging under load?

Well there was no way to actually see the exgine coupler even with a flex mirror. I could reach back there and grab it and there wasn't any rubber or black soot so I'm assuming it wasn't slipping.
 

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Re: mercruiser outdrive disengaging under load?

As for new props, I have a Michigan now but I'm looking at the Solas and turning points hustler. Whats your opinion on these props?
 

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Re: mercruiser outdrive disengaging under load?

As for new props, I have a Michigan now but I'm looking at the Solas and turning points hustler. Whats your opinion on these props?

Ayuh,... This is the I/O, Motors Forum,.... Try this question in the Prop Forum....

Read the "Read This First" thread before you post the thread...
 

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Re: mercruiser outdrive disengaging under load?

Don's the expert, so I will tell you what I know but it's not gospel. Always be careful not to hurt anyone when working on the boat.

I did lose my coupler recently. As Don said, it spun once and was gone. Once I got the boat home, I confirmed it was the coupler. I DISCONNECTED THE BATTERY CABLES (!!!!), put the drive in gear and worked my hand down the back of the engine, over the coupler to where two fingers were on the sterndrive yoke driveshaft. I had my kid turn the prop in the direction it was in (ccw, as I recall). I could feel the shaft turning and the coupler wasn't turning at all. Now my case may be different than others--the aluminum splines on the inside of the coupler were sheared off. If they were partially gone, or if the rubber part was failing, then turning by hand might still turn the coupler, but it may slip on the lake under load.

On your prop--I had the EXACT same problem for my first season or two. The prop was just "blowing out", losing its bite on the water, especially under load of tubing or wakeboarding. The two or three props I got with the boat from the previous owner were all too low of pitch. I was lucky--a local boatyard let me take one refurbished prop out at a time--as long as I returned them in the same shape, I didn't have to buy them. I found that a much higher pitch worked a lot better but still blew out on high speed turns. I eventually found an in-between pitch that hardly ever blows out, only on rough water at high speed and usually in turns--and I don't do all of those together very often. Finding that prop pitch was like getting a new boat.

Hope you get it nailed down!
 

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Re: mercruiser outdrive disengaging under load?

Thanks everyone. I'm going to trying switching to a 4 blade prop, seems that they are better for boarding and tubing. I'll also lower the trim some although I've been doing this for a few years now and that was never a problem before. I was told to lower the pitch by 2 when changing to a 4 blade but I think I'll stick with the same pitch for better bite and give up top end.
 
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