Missing at WOT 1972 100HP V4

wireready

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Eliminating the gremlins of this newly acquired 1972 Evinrude V4 100HP electric shift. Starts fine,, smooth idle, runs fine up to around 1500 RPM, if I bring the throttle up, at about the same point each time it will bog down, always at the same point. It doesn't sputter or fight and it never stalls, it's as if it's running on two cylinders (maybe 3) all of a sudden, instead of the smooth roar of WOT, it's almost a machine gun muffled engine sound, wa wa wa wa wa, you can hear the ignition of individual cylinders it seems, and the overall volume of the engine noise is softer than it would normally be. It never makes it up to WOT, I don't have a tach, but if I had to guess somewhere around past 1500-2000 RPM it will get in this mode. if I back down the throttle, it will surge briefly with a normal fast RPM sound and then settle down to a regular slow /fast idle speed as I continue to back the throttle down. I could let it go forever like this, but because it doesn't sound very good, I back off after a few seconds. It does it everytime, I try to bring the throttle past a certain point. Also when it does this, there is a noticeable reduction in power, it doesn't just level off, it's like going over a cliff. I checked the timing and made sure it was 28 degrees advanced, and with my timing gun verified all 4 plugs were getting pulsed at all points on the throttle from idle to wot. I've squeezed the primer bulb when this problem is occuring, and it doesn't help- it actually stays pretty firm so I don't think it's a fuel pump problem. I did link and sync.

Does this sound like a high speed jet carb problem on one or two cylinders? The next time I go out - I'm going to take the boat out with a friend and spray fuel through the throats one at a time (or two at a time) to see if it run better. I'll report back on that test later.

Are there any tips/techniques for spraying fuel through the throats? A regular pump spray bottle? Set it to make a mist, or just a **** stream and shoot it in there? Should I do one throat at a time, or should I do two?

The plugs looked fine, I suppose I could replace them too, but haven't. I figured if they fire at low RPM why would they stop at high RPM. I thought it might be a timing problem, but I checked it and I've got it dead on 28 degrees advanced at WOT and around 5 at idle.

I checked compression at the beginning of the season, and all 4 cylinders were around 115 to 120 each. I've retested compression and it's still the same. The only other info I can provide- a couple times I took it immediately out of the dock, and I was able to get up on plane with normal WOT for about a minute max, and then the motor will slowly but surely start to get softer and softer, gradually getting to that muffled sound and finally reach that wa wa wa sound. And then from there, anytime I push the throttle too far forward, at the same point it it does the wa wa wa wa

Does this sound like one or two cylinders have plugged high speed jets- can a motor run fine up to 1500 or 2000 RPM or so just using the low speed inlets?
 

emdsapmgr

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Re: Missing at WOT 1972 100HP V4

You have already checked each plug wire for spark with an inductive timing light, so you probably have a fuel issue. Weak fuel pumps will create a situation similar to the one you describe. Pump will provide enough fuel to run up to a certain throttle postion, then after that the enigine consumes more fuel from the carb bowl than the pump can deliver. You have already tried priming the fuel hose bulb and that has not helped, so your pump may be ok. If you have not had the carbs apart, you may need to overhaul them. First, I'd pull the four drain screws off the carb bowls and pull out the four high speed jets for inspection. Check them to make sure there is no debris or restriction in them. If you don't want to remove the carbs for this inspection, Bombardier makes another small jet removal tool that you can use with a wrench to remove them when still mounted. It is time consuming, but works. Depending on the age of the fuel system on your engine, it probably is not rated to handle the alcohol that is in most of today's fuel. It will deteriorate the rubber in the hoses and the rubber bladders in the fuel pump. Replacement hoses/pumps are rated for today's fuels.
 

wireready

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Re: Missing at WOT 1972 100HP V4

You were right. Super THANKS !! Taking the drain plugs off was easy, but with the carb still assembled on the boat, I wasn't able to get those inlet jets out, especially without the real OMC tool... probably been years since they were last taken out and I didn't want to strip them with my little screw driver.

The good news is that I took a thin guage wire and threaded it through one end, all the way through the carb out the other drain plug and then worked it back and forth like dental floss.. I did both barrels and I also sprayed carb cleaner liberally through it and let it sit an hour or so and then did some more flossing.

I was worried that I never saw any gunk on the wire or solid gunk come out, but there must be have been some gooye obstruction in one or two of those jets, because sure enough, I took it out and it ran beautifully at WOT. I guess it was just soft varnishy goo, that was loosened with the wire and dissolved with with the cleaner. One of them it took a long time to push the wire through, I wasn't sure if that was the obstruction or I was just having a hard time lining it up since the orifices are pretty small. In any case it works like a champ. First time since I acquired the boat. I Got the kids, and we tubed and ski'd about 3 hours, and it didn't even flinch all day. No sweeter sound in the world !!
 

Daviet

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Re: Missing at WOT 1972 100HP V4

I am glad you found your problem, but you may want to go ahead and rebuild those carbs. There could still be stuff in the carb bowels.
 

wireready

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Re: Missing at WOT 1972 100HP V4

Thanks again. I do plan to completely clean out the carbs this winter when I take the boat out of the lake for the season.
 
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