Monterey 250cr Air Conditioning Ducts Setup

amanphoto

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I'm looking to install ducts for the air conditioning in my Monterey 250cr. I know it came as an option from the factory. I've seen pics of boats with it, but I'm not sure what is intake and what is exhaust. I'm also not sure what is in the aft cabin for ducts. I know the unit fits under the bench on the right side. Other then that, routs for ducting and placement. Any advice and pics. Thanks.
 

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What makes them a pro? I have more attention to detail and performance then they do.
 

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No, But my father is and I'm well versed in HVAC. But the units come charged with refrigerant. So your better off being a finish carpenter, or an electrician or a plumber, and a designer.
 

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Funny... NOTHING IN THE WORLD wrong with doing it yourself.... there are several things you need to know and the manufacturer's website should tell you most of it such as how to run the water lines such that they don't airlock...


Typically the return air is a square louvered vent often with provision for a filter close to the unit and there is generally no duct... it simply allows air into the compartment housing the unit... Sound doesn't go around corners well so if that louver doesn't face the unit and better yet if you have a baffle all the better.


Duct's are VERY simple and the hardest part is gaining access to route them.... In a typical aft cab cruiser (mine specifically) the duct is routed down one side and gets smaller as it passes junctions... In my 28'er I have one register on the galley counter behind the stove (HATE that location where a "pro" put it) one in the head below the sink, and one in the back wall of the closet facing into the aft cabin... again don't like that location either as it is too directly 'in your face' .... I also have another duct run down the other side to a large register under the dinette.. This is the best located register on the boat... I would have put more effort into the install... I would have put 2 very small vents in the v-berth pointing up on either side. I would have put one or two in the wall behind the galley AWAY from the stove since the last thing you want to do is blow that heat/steam into the cabin instead of letting it rise to the open hatch.... I would have put 1 vent or 2 smaller vents in the outside wall of the head so they would be above most shower spray... I would have put the aft vents below the bed such that they directed across the area instead of directly at me while sleeping.

Vents that are a bit big can be closed down but if they are too small your SOL

You CAN route your ducts and vents in the open in your boat to try out the layout before you commit and cut holes....

If you are not completely sure of the access in an area decide on an alternate plane BEFORE you cut.... IE would an electrical outlet, light, speaker, or??? work here.... don't cut the hole too big for the alternate until you are sure....

I for one would MUCH MUCH MUCH rather design and install my own system than deal with what a "pro" thinks is good..



Last, don't don't don't underestimate the size of your unit.... consult with the manufacturer of the unit... Study your boat VERY close.... do you have lots of glass? a drafty cabin door? kids going in and out constantly?


My boat came to me with all ductwork in place but the unit and pump removed... I got a smokin deal on a used marineair 10k unit w reverse cycle and installed it... the unit works great up to 80* outside... 85 and sunny it will almost keep up if the boat is chilled at night and it starts to get a bit stuffy by lunchtime even closed up and running constantly... 90*+ day forget it.... 10am and you're getting cooked... My boat seals up well and has very little window... I have reflectix insulation under canvas covers on the hatches..... I am going to install a 16k unit and I expect that one to have trouble keeping the boat cool while the stove is in use.
 

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Oh and for duct routing... get a cordless 3/8" impact with a phillips bit and start removing things... stove, fridge etc

Pull drawers out of their tracks. yank your cushions and access panels... electrical panels.... basically anything with screws that is near a possible duct route....
 

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Smokeonthewate Thanks for the input. I read that if you put a larger compressor in, It will freeze up. I might go with a little larger unit then I was first thinking. I have to rethink placement. They want 3" around the unit and I loose a lot of storage where it was going to go.
 

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No prob... the manufacturers can likely work with you to lay out your system... their websites have LOTS of info as well. I suggest reading all you can on there and then calling tech support with specifics and measurements from your boat
 

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After researching what the factory installed airconditioning was like on my boat. I don't think it was a very well placed system and I can do better. The "factory" setup has the compressor under the starboard "V" birth bench. The intake is down low and right in front of the seat. The first duct it routed up and right against the outside cuddy wall. The next duct is a small vent in the foot area of the cuddy. That's it. No vents in the head. No vents in the kitchen area. It's very one sided. I have to look and see where I can run ducts to, but that just won't do.
 

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This is a 25 foot boat right? Mine is 25 foot. I have one large I think 9 inch rectangle vent on the bulkhead against the head. One 2 inch vent in the head and one two inch vent in the midbirth. The return is under the vbirth right where the compressor it. I think you may be over complicating this. Don't oversize the system ither. Bigger is not better, any ways you will more than likely run it off of a swimplatform generator at some point. My 7K starts fine on a 2000W generator.
 

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wherever you can fit it... ideally avoid places where it will get splashed taking a shower and avoid putting it very near to the path return air flow will take out of the area, in many boats that is near the outside window.

In my boat it is just under the sink... blows across in front of me if sitting down....
 

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The biggest cause of A/C freeze up is a small air return. Make sure it's large as can be. The condenser needs to have enough room around it for air circulation also
 

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The factory locations for the vents look just fine for that size boat. It's not a very large cabin to begin with, so the very limited amount of time spent in the head, does not require an A/C vent.
 

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I disagree... I have been known to fire up the genny and the a/c for the sole purpose of using the head and not coming out soaked in sweat..... some visits take longer than others..... not to mention heat for shower time is nice too
 

amanphoto

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The factory locations for the vents look just fine for that size boat. It's not a very large cabin to begin with, so the very limited amount of time spent in the head, does not require an A/C vent.


On a cold day or hot day a climate controlled head would be very nice. Especially when it is supper hot and your all sticky trying to pull your suit back up. lol
 
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