More intolerence...

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[SIZE=+1] Washington Weekly Review

Friday, May 25, 2007
Roberta Combs, President


Tennessee Democrat Congressman Insulted Christian Evangelicals and Christian Universities During his House Judiciary Committee Questioning on Wednesday of Former Justice Department Official who was a former Regent University Graduate and He Exposed Religious Intolerance of the Left
Congressman Steve Cohen -- a Democrat from the conservative state of Tennessee, during a House of Representatives Judiciary Committee hearing in which former Justice Department official and former Regent University Law School graduate Monica Goodling was interrogated -- insulted Christian evangelicals and questioned the credibility of Christian universities in America. The following is a sampling of the interrogation of Monica Goodling by Congressman Cohen.
REP. COHEN: The mission of the law school you attended, Regent, is to bring bear -- "is to bring to bear upon legal education and the legal profession the will of Almighty God, our Creator." What is "the will of Almighty God, our Creator" on the legal profession?
MS. GOODLING: I'm not sure that I could define that question for you.
REP. COHEN: Are there a lot of -- an inordinate number of people from Regent University Law School that were hired by the Department of Justice while you were there?
MS. GOODLING: I think we have a lot more people from Harvard and Yale.
REP. COHEN: Well, that's refreshing...."

As a result of this religious intolerance during Wednesday's congressional hearing, a number of outraged Republican Congressmen during their questioning of witness Monica Goodling, reminded their left-wing colleagues of the Christian roots of the founding of America and its early colleges and universities. Congressman Cohen was reminded that Harvard University was founded by a young minister, the Reverend John Harvard.
Congressman Randy Forbes, Republican from Virginia, represents a congressional district near Regent University said this during his questionning of Monica Goodling: "Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Ms. Goodling, many of us feared this day would come, but we did not realize it would arrive so soon, when the fact that someone was a Christian would be the subject of a line of questioning as to how someone performed their job at the Department of Justice or any other agency in the United States government.
It's not a good day, nor a good sign of things to come, and I just hope those individuals watching this across the country realize the sea change that's taken place.
In addition, since my district is contiguous to Regent University, I'd like to point out that not only is the attorney general of Virginia a graduate of Regent University, but this year, Regent University students won the American Bar Association's Negotiation Competition February 11, not only beating out 220 teams, but also beating the former winner, Harvard University.
And the American Bar Association, not exactly a bastion of conservatism, has chosen Regent University to compete internationally in their competition.And that Regent has won the ABA's National Appellate Advocacy Competition 11 out of the last 14 years, including placing first for the best brief...."

Finally, Representative Steve King, Republican from Iowa said: "...So Harvard was founded to supplement the ministry itself. And then when I looked back on the founding documents of Yale and I find that they wanted to -- they did establish Yale in 1701 as a result of a conservative reaction by congregationalist leaders worried of what they identified as the increasing departure of Harvard College from its Calvinistic heritage.
(LAUGHTER)
Rep. KING: So then I look at Regent University, which Mr. Forbes has so well laid out their credentials and also your credentials simultaneously -- whether it was advertent or inadvertent.
And here I read, 'Our students, faculty and administrators share a calling founded on biblical principles to make a significant difference in our communities, our cities, our nations and the world.'
So I would submit that Regent is a successor to Yale, which is a successor to Harvard, in being founded upon religious principles. And this nation was founded upon religious principles, as was our Constitution.
So I think it is a laudable thing, not a derogatory thing. And we will on this side of the aisle stand up for all of our principles, our constitutional principles and our Christian principles whenever they are challenged or whenever we have the opportunity without them being challenged...."


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Haut Medoc

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Nothing worse than whiny christians......:rolleyes:
 

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Except for arrogant, intolerant people that profess tolerance ...
 

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That's right. The Blo Haut and Rep. Cohen have it all figured out. Their own rules, their own interpretations, their own personal versions of right and wrong, history, tolerance, our origins and indeed our Universe's creation. I am humbled to be on the same planet with them . . . Blecccccchhhh, smite the knuckleheads :rolleyes: :mad:
 

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Ow! These ad hominum attacks really hurt!
Guess I'll have to turn the other cheek!.......;):D
The Evangelical stranglehold on this country needs to end.....
It also occurs to me that this country was founded by those wanting to escape religious persecution......;)
 

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The Evangelical stranglehold on this country needs to end.....
Give me an example from above or life period, and I will respond . . . Otherwise it is simply your own paranoia and your own method of religious persecution ;)

Smite the knuckleheads!!
 

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Nothing worse than whiny christians......:rolleyes:
I think whiney muslims got them beat, HM.
Besides, Christians don't go around doing stuff like this:
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Until provoked.
 

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Let me see...hmmmm a Jewish person thinks Christians are wrong.......hmmmm, are the christians always trying to kill Jewish people?...hmmmmmmmmm; not! the muslims are. So, a Jewish democrat is pro-neo islamic. Good one. The Democrats will stoop to the lowest level, if it furthers their socialist/communist/fascist cause.
 

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I think whiney muslims got them beat, HM.
Besides, Christians don't go around doing stuff like this:
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Until provoked.
I agree, 12.....
It bugs me when Christians whine, because I believe they are, (or should be) above that.....
Smite the Saracens!...:)
 

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Anybody looked at this angle on the perceived intolerance?



Seems to be some concern that the reason for the perceived intolerance is for religious reasons. Maybe not. Could be some frustration on Congressman Cohens because the only way he could get a straight answer out of Miss Goodling was by granting her immunity.

Also could be more frustration on his part because here he is trying to get to the bottom of why eight qualified United States Attorneys were fired. Here he was trying to get some answers out of a person who had never been in a courtroom, never presented a civil or criminal case to a jury or a judge, never wrote a brief, or handled a client's legal problem.
H ring and firing United States Attorneys? Only in the Bush Administration could this kind of inexperienced incompetent end up making decisions on who to hire and who to fire. Yes that would make me frustrated too.

Here are a few more stats on this great Judge of quality Attorneys, Eight qualified attorneys get fired, everyone of them a graduate from a tier one law school, here you have to give someone from Regent University, a tier four school, Thirty-six (36) of the 59 Regent students who took the Virginia bar exam in Summer 2004 and Winter 2005 (61%) passed on their first attempt; on average, 73% of all Virginia bar exam takers .Yes, you might get a bit testy when you question her.

According to statewide and national statistics, Regent's four-year average Virginia bar pass rate is 51.5%, which is 21.5% below the statewide average of 73%, and the lowest in the Commonwealth of Virginia. Here you are trying to get to the bottom of the firings, trying to ascertain if the firings were of a political nature. Definitely would make me testy.


Consider these stats, 50 (percent) to (60) percent of the students failed the bar exam. I could see why Congressman Cohens .a graduate with a law degree, could be seen as lacking in tolerance, considering part if his job as a legislator is to make sure the constitution is upheld, You know that little piece of paper, that Thomas Jefferson made reference, too in 1802, in which he referred to the ?First Amendment of the United states Constitution? as creating a "wall of separation" between church and state.



How about this little stat? As Regent's Web site proudly proclaims that 150 graduates of Regent University have served in this administration. Maybe Congressman Cohens is a bit paranoid, who knows?


 

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Anybody looked at this angle on the perceived intolerance?



Seems to be some concern that the reason for the perceived intolerance is for religious reasons. Maybe not. Could be some frustration on Congressman Cohens because the only way he could get a straight answer out of Miss Goodling was by granting her immunity.

Also could be more frustration on his part because here he is trying to get to the bottom of why eight qualified United States Attorneys were fired. Here he was trying to get some answers out of a person who had never been in a courtroom, never presented a civil or criminal case to a jury or a judge, never wrote a brief, or handled a client's legal problem.
H ring and firing United States Attorneys? Only in the Bush Administration could this kind of inexperienced incompetent end up making decisions on who to hire and who to fire. Yes that would make me frustrated too.

Here are a few more stats on this great Judge of quality Attorneys, Eight qualified attorneys get fired, everyone of them a graduate from a tier one law school, here you have to give someone from Regent University, a tier four school, Thirty-six (36) of the 59 Regent students who took the Virginia bar exam in Summer 2004 and Winter 2005 (61%) passed on their first attempt; on average, 73% of all Virginia bar exam takers .Yes, you might get a bit testy when you question her.

According to statewide and national statistics, Regent's four-year average Virginia bar pass rate is 51.5%, which is 21.5% below the statewide average of 73%, and the lowest in the Commonwealth of Virginia. Here you are trying to get to the bottom of the firings, trying to ascertain if the firings were of a political nature. Definitely would make me testy.


Consider these stats, 50 (percent) to (60) percent of the students failed the bar exam. I could see why Congressman Cohens .a graduate with a law degree, could be seen as lacking in tolerance, considering part if his job as a legislator is to make sure the constitution is upheld, You know that little piece of paper, that Thomas Jefferson made reference, too in 1802, in which he referred to the ?First Amendment of the United states Constitution? as creating a "wall of separation" between church and state.



How about this little stat? As Regent's Web site proudly proclaims that 150 graduates of Regent University have served in this administration. Maybe Congressman Cohens is a bit paranoid, who knows?


Consider this Tree, it is only because of old christian value's that your liberal voice is being heard and acknowledged, the very foundation of this country, and it's respect for self awareness, you have not yet seen a christian say adhere to my value's or be scourged........have you???
 

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Quote Tail Gunner



you have not yet seen a christian say adhere to my value's or be scourged........have you???


Can?t argue with you their tail gunner, and that?s the way I want to keep it.

I also don?t want them trying to push there beliefs off on me.
 

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quote=treedancer;1344643]Quote Tail Gunner



you have not yet seen a christian say adhere to my value's or be scourged........have you???


Can?t argue with you their tail gunner, and that?s the way I want to keep it.

I also don?t want them trying to push there beliefs off on me.[/quote]

;) Just kind gentle nudge's, the way we were told...:redface:
 

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I have nothing against Christians as long as they do not try to tell me how to live my life. When the products of a less than mediocre law school are being hired by this administration to fill positions that should be filled by the best people our country can produce,I do get suspicious about the ulterior purpose of the people who are running this administration behind the scenes and I really worry about the honesty of the people that are up front.
The reason why mr Cohen is mentioned on this board as a jew and not as an American is also worrisome,but at a very different level.
 

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It could be argued that this statement . . .
I have nothing against Christians as long as they do not try to tell me how to live my life.
. . . is just as troubling as your concerns outlined in this one . . .
The reason why mr Cohen is mentioned on this board as a jew and not as an American is also worrisome,but at a very different level.
Which I agree is troubling BTW.

Where did you get "less than mediocre"?
When the products of a less than mediocre law school are being hired by this administration to fill positions that should be filled by the best people our country can produce, I do get suspicious about the ulterior purpose of the people who are running this administration behind the scenes and I really worry about the honesty of the people that are up front.
I think this statement is paranoia once again. What are your comments about Ms. Rodham-Clinton's accent changes when addressing African American Institutions? What are your comments about politically motivated hiring and firing from past administrations? I ask these questions not to pick a fight, but to understand if you are consistent with your observations.

One of the reasons I like Bush is that his faith is genuine. This may be scary to some, but I am much more concerned about chameleons than honesty . . .
 

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Quote rolmops "When the products of a less than mediocre law school are being hired by this administration to fill positions that should be filled by the best people our country can produce..."

It's a lib thing called Affirmative Action. Every company in the USA has to follow it, so must the government You can't have the best people, you have to take those that aren't as qualified as well. Have to be fair ya know. Can't let those not qualified have they're feelings hurt. Where's your heart at? ;)
 

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What you talking about QC? Liberals are all about Brand Names! (Harvard, Yale, Princeton) It's not about quality, its about pedigree.
 
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