motor jerking

longshot

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I use a 48slp tiller on a 1756 Xpress. Just recently the motor has been acting funny. While on plane the tiller handle is jerking toward the port side. It is a VERY sudden jerk that is one short pulse. The faster I run the more pronounced the jerk is. When It is not doing this you can steer the boat with one finger. Any ideas......I am at a loss???<br /><br />thanks<br />longshot
 

Joe Reeves

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Re: motor jerking

(Jumping Out Of Gear - Manual Type)<br />(J. Reeves)<br /> <br />This pertains to lower units on all OMC manual shift outboard engines, or any OMC engine with lower units defined as a Shift Assist or a Hydro Electric Shift unit which incorporates a "Shifter Clutch Dog".<br /> <br />Within the lower unit, splined to the prop shaft is what is most often referred to as a clutch dog, hereafter simply called dog. The dog has at least two lobes protruding from it on both ends, facing both forward and reverse gear. The forward and reverse gears also have lobes built into them near their center area. When the engine is running, in neutral, the gears are spinning constantly via the driveshaft being connected directly to the powerhead crankshaft, but the propeller does not turn due to the fact that the dog is centered between the two gears, and the dog lobes are not touching either of the gear lobes.<br /> <br />When the unit is put into either gear, shift linkages force the dog (and its lobes of course) to engage the lobes of the the gear. The lobes of the spinning gear grab the lobes of the dog, and since the dog is splined to the prop shaft, the propeller turns.<br /><br />The lobes of the dog and gears are percisely machined, most with right angled edges that could be installed in either direction, and some with angles slightly varied that must be installed in one direction only (one end only must face the propeller). Dogs that can be installed in one direction only, if reversed, even if the dog and both gears were new.... would jump out of gear almost immediately. Keep in mind that the lobes are percisely machined with sharp angles!<br /> <br />Due to improper adjustment or worn shift linkages, but usually due to improper slow shifting, those percisely machined sharp edges of the lobes become slightly rounded. Now, with those lobes rounded, as the rpms increase, the pressure of the gear lobes upon the dog lobes increases to a point whereas they are forced apart (jumping out of gear), and due (usually) to the shift cable keeping tension on the engines shift linkages..... the unit is forced back into gear giving one the sensation that the engine has hit something, and the cycle continues.<br /> <br />Some boaters have the mistaken belief that shifting slowly is taking it easy on all of the shifting components..... Wrong! Shifting slowly allows those percisely machined sharp edges of the dog and gears to click, clank, bang, slam against each other many times before they are finally forced into alignment with each other..... and this is what rounds those edges off! The proper way to shift is to snap the unit into gear as quickly as possible.
 

angus63

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Re: motor jerking

Darn.... came in third again........ ;) <br /><br />I guess everyone checks in around lunch time!!!!
 

longshot

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Re: motor jerking

more info on boat/motor<br /><br />I hit a stump about a year ago. When I hit the stump it broke the two bolts that hold the motor to the transom bracket. These two bolts are located right next to the motor head. The shift rod was bent also. Mech. told me the bolts were loose before the impact broke them.<br /><br />Lower unit had a LOT of water in it. This winter while hunting the lower unit was frozen. Let it thaw out and drained and replaced oil. There did not seem to be excess metal in the oil or attached to the lower hole plug. Also I cannot locate a oil leak in the lower unit since the oil change. :confused: <br /><br />thanks<br />longshot
 

ED21

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Re: motor jerking

The lower unit won't necessarily leak oil. My 40 has been getting water in the gearcase, but never leaves a drop on my driveway. <br />It probably has something to do with differential pressure that allows water in.
 

angus63

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Re: motor jerking

I've been told that the only way to truly check the lower for leaks is pressure check in a tank and look for bubbles, then dry it off and vacuum check to see if it holds vacuum for at least 10 minutes. By the way, what year is this motor Mr Shot?
 

OBJ

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Re: motor jerking

Longshot....just to clarify....When this happens, does it "feel" like you hit a log or is it something different?
 

longshot

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Re: motor jerking

The motor is a 1996.<br /><br />NO.....it does not feel like I am hitting a log when it does it. It feels like the torque tab is moving or something. It feels like a very sudden hard push trying to move the tiller handle toward the port side of the boat. <br /><br />here is the best way to tell you how it feels<br />It feels VERY much like the feeling you get running in swift river current. Almost a sliding on ice feeling in the boat when it does it.<br /><br />I recently decarbed the motor with Johnson eng. tuner. I did not change the plugs if that would matter.<br /><br />thanks for the ideas<br />longshot
 

OBJ

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Re: motor jerking

You may be experiencing a high speed miss. The engine just naturally torques to the right. At high speed or WOT, a cylinder dropping out would cut that torque in half and maybe cause the engine to slip to port. Take a spark test and see if you possibly may have a weak spark on one of the cylinders. It'll look thready like and not thick and hot. A good spark on your engine should jump a 1/2" gap with a hot lighting like spark.
 
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