Motor over wevving -Watch-

Machino

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5vZAKuo7ug

This is a video of my 15 hp Evinrude. I have been having this problem for the past several months. At first it was diagnosed as a spun prop. Well well it isn't the prop (I think). The prop in the video maybe has 10 hours on it. The basic problem is at WOT it will rev very high, but looses all power. You will here the over rev at about 18 seconds. I immediately throttle down because it sounds like the engine will explode if you hold it there. When throttling down it seems like it will kick back into gear, or catch. It seems like different trims make it worse, and the cavitation plate still seems too low, but if I raise it up the over revving becomes worse. Gas tank is in the front. Battery is in the back. It doesn't do it as often or if at all with one man. 13 foot boat, 2 men to 320lbs, gas, battery, and fishing gear.

An interesting side note is this boat came with a 12 hp Sears motor and it made a similar noise when turning hard one way or the other. My buddy and I discussed why with all the outboards we have used all the motors make this noise on this boat. We did recently replace the transom which originally had a hook on it (The angle of the transom left a portion of it hanging below the hull). This seemed to be taking away power and sucked dragging around for ducks. So we replaced the transom and now its parallel with the hull and a little above it. Just trying to give as much info as possible as I'd like to fix the problem. thanks for the help.
 

wilde1j

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The motor may be too high BC of the transom fix. If it's a short shaft motor, the top of the transom to the bottom of the hull should be ~ 15", 20" if the motor's a long shaft motor. The tipoff is your comment that other motors do the same thing on this boat.
 

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All the possible causes I can think of (apart from spun hub):

* ventilation from drawing in surface air. If it only happens on sharp turns, this pretty much has to be the cause. Could even be some hull damage or irregularity aerating the water.

* ventilation from exhaust gas getting sucked into the blades. Thru-hub exhaust only, not sure if this applies to you. Damaged diffuser ring or foreign object caught in the diffuser ring (couple pieces gravel is all it takes).

* blockage of water flow into the prop blades. Prop damage, damage or irregularity on the lower unit, foreign object caught on the lower unit, or on the hull just forward of the motor.
 

bktheking

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Post a side pic, motor and transom, that will surely clear things up.
 

Machino

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Re: Motor over wevving -Watch-

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Here is the pic.
 

bktheking

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Drop it down a pin or 2 and try it. What is on the skeg, a hydrofoil, skeg guard, my eyes seeing something that isn't there? :D
 

Machino

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There is a skeg guard on the motor. The motor in the video was running with the pin in the second hole. ???
 

bktheking

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Anyway of dropping the motor an inch or 2 to see if the issue goes away?
 

F_R

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Two things are obvious:

1. The motor is too high.
2. That stupid skeg thing ahead of the prop. It will make bubbles which will cause severe cavitation.
 

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I've got to agree with the guys. There's a lot of "stuff" going on at the stearn of that boat. Why is there a 6" box attached to the transom? It looks like it's a good inch or inch and a half above the plane of the hull where it mounts to the transom. That puts the motor 6" farther rearward of the point were it rotates to the -on plane- position. It seems that as soon as it tries to plane out, it lifts the motor out of the water. Plus that "stupid skeg thing" has got to go. No point trying to diagnose the problem with that thing on there. Good luck!

Cheers..................Todd
 

Machino

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The "stupid skeg thing" is there to protect the skeg. Yes, anyone could assume that it would take some speed out of the motor, but any fisherman who fishes from a river understands there importance. I appreciate all the responses.
 

wilde1j

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The "stupid skeg thing" is there to protect the skeg. Yes, anyone could assume that it would take some speed out of the motor, but any fisherman who fishes from a river understands there importance. I appreciate all the responses.

The design is terrible and F_R's comment was well taken. You shouldn't insult one who knows more than you ever will about motors. If you're worried about the prop, get a proper prop protector. What you have will not allow the motor to run w/o cavitation, period.
 

Machino

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I feel like most of the people in this forum are knowledgeable, granted most of their knowledge is with big motors in big water. I simply come on here to find answers to my questions regarding my baby boat and motor, not to find attitude from 12,000 posts man or a Rear Admiral Again, I assumed most people would know what a skeg guard is and thus, understand their importance. I operate in a river with a maximun depth of 20 feet and the majority of riffles are 1-6 feet deep for hundreds of yards. Its important to protect my lower unit/investment. Regardless, I'll catch more bigger fish in a season than you or FR will ever see in your life, and I'll do it in a boat that runs at half throttle and over revs.

Thanks.
 

Ranger Danger

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, I'll catch more bigger fish in a season than you or FR will ever see in your life, and I'll do it in a boat that runs at half throttle and over revs.

Thanks.

Catch an English class while you're at it. "More bigger?" Seriously?

Looks like you've got your answer, be on your way. This forum has been immensely (that means a lot) helpful to me, along with all the posters.
 

wilde1j

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This is what will run right and protect:
 

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wilde1j

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Not other than some customers came in with that kind of deal and never heard any performance complaints. Family owned a boat business for many years in NM. I don't fish in rocky rivers and never have ... only lakes and way offshore in the Atlantic. The piece you have doesn't have a prayer of working right. It deflects water away from the prop, which explains the over revving.
 

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By chance is your first name "Elmer"? Wevving ??????
 
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