motor rating capacities on boats

procraftmark

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What controls what rating a boat gets. I have a 89 spectrum 1606 deep V that is rated for a 50hp <br />which is what it has on it . The has a fairly wide beam and is rated for 5 people and 720 lbs , I just thought it might be rated higher for a motor.<br /><br /><br />mark
 

tommays

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Re: motor rating capacities on boats

there are a ton of rules from the coast guard and other places that i could not begin to explane that the builder has to follow to arive at the magic number<br /><br />tommays
 

Silvertip

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Re: motor rating capacities on boats

You boat is rated for 5 people "OR" 720 pounds. If you do the math you'll see that those are pretty skinny people at 144#. Now subtract the weight of the gear, batteries, and motor and you can easily see how boats get overloaded. Boat manufacturers calculate the max HP based on hull design, length, width, etc. according to an industry formula. For insurance purposes, don't even think about installing an engine larger than the boat is rated for.
 

wilkin250r

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Re: motor rating capacities on boats

Last I looked, horsepower rating based on a few different principles, but not too terribly complex. The first was a simple formula based on the dimensions of the boat. For mono-hull boats under 20 ft in length, the formula is:<br /><br />(2 X L X W) -90 = rated horsepower<br /><br />Where:<br /><br />L=boat length<br />W=transom width; if the boat does not have a full transom,<br /> the transom width is the broadest beam in the<br /> aftermost quarter length of the boat.<br /> <br />The rated horsepower may be rounded up to the nearest "5".<br /><br />So a 19ft boat with a transom width of 6ft 6 inches should have a maximum HP rating of (19x6.5x2)-90 = 157hp, or 160hp rounded up.<br /><br />Now, a secondary test is a high-speed turn test. A boat must be able to handle a sudden 180 degree turn of the steering wheel at maximum speed with the max horsepower engine (propped correctly) without loss of control or ejecting the driver. If the hull design fails this test, the manufacturer can either lower the horsepower rating, or place a warning label on the dashboard. I believe most opted for de-rating.<br /><br />If anybody knows of additional requirements, or my information is innaccurate, please correct me. I found this information because I needed the info, and I would appreciate correction if I am in error.
 

Paul Moir

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Re: motor rating capacities on boats

I don't know how it's done down there, but up here we have a simple calculation like that for backyard boat builders and people wanting capacity plates for their un-plated (pre-'79 I think) boats, and a far more complicated formula for manufacturers that yeilds a slightly higher number.<br />Actually, for backyard boat builders and such you have the choice of following the complicated formula or the simple formula. Manufacturers have to do the complicated one though.
 

procraftmark

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Re: motor rating capacities on boats

well using that formula<br /><br />w=6ft. <br />L= 16.5 so<br /><br />2x 16.5 = 33 x 6 = 198 - 90= 98<br /><br />according to that I would be around at least a 90hp.<br /><br /><br />Is it because it is a spectrum and not a lowe or alumacraft lol, maybe they thought it would fly apart with a 90 on her.<br /><br /><br />mark
 

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Hres what I think and I could be wrong but I think not. My Bayliner was a package Boat motor trailer. The 15 foot boat of that year got a 50 and was rated at 50. The 17 foot was rated at 85 and that what it got. The 19 got a 125. Now the only enogines you can get are on the boat there were no other options so Bayliner though thats how we will rate it. Only thing is the boat can handle more power but the cap plate is wrong as to engine Hp not weight.<br /><br />And to the Anti-Bayliner crowd Twwwaaappp on the back of the head as the transom is really able to handle it. I saw and rebuilt parts of mine.<br /><br />(2x17.5)(6)-90= 120<br /><br />so a 115 would be fine on the boat. But the mfg says 85.<br /><br />Is there a way to get the CG to certify this?
 

procraftmark

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Re: motor rating capacities on boats

Bayliner ? you aren't saying the spectrum is a bayliner by another name are ya real?<br /><br /><br />mark
 

wilkin250r

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Re: motor rating capacities on boats

Originally posted by Realgun:<br /> <br />Is there a way to get the CG to certify this?
Sure, rip of the rating plate. Then, if you get stopped, tell them that you don't know the rating, so you calculated it by the standard USCG formula. :D <br /><br />I think you're right about the Bayliner ratings. They put them together as a package deal, with a smaller motor for safety, reliability, and probably cost as well. Then just slapped the rating on there to match, even though it may be able to handle more. Every other 19ft boat I have ever seen is rated for more than 125hp.
 

biloxiriver

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Re: motor rating capacities on boats

Heck, I own a Bayliner that doesn't even have the hp rating on rating plate - has everything else, # passengers, max weight, etc. Came with a 120 on it. It is a 1998 21' Rendevous Deckboat. It certainly should handle more than 120.
 

Realgun

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Heck, I own a Bayliner that doesn't even have the hp rating on rating plate
Boats of 20 foot or longer are exempt from HP ratings.
 

Realgun

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Bayliner ? you aren't saying the spectrum is a bayliner by another name are ya real?
I honestly don't know nor care if a spectrum is as good as MY boat. I am not comparing your boat to mine I just want more power. If I have to rebuild it and recertify it I will Bayliner just wants to sell me another boat. I asked them to give me a new plate. Stupid brucure is all I got.<br /><br />Now I have a Bayliner however, you will never know it as All junk they added to know what I have is gone! Or soon will be.<br /><br />Even the color will be changed to protect the innocent. :D
 

procraftmark

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Re: motor rating capacities on boats

lol, Real I wasn't putting either boat down . You just had wondering if the 2 were somehow connected.<br /><br /><br />mark
 
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