Motor too noisy..any ideas ???

strikem

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I have a mariner 60hp 2 cylinder 2 stroke motor which is quite noisy.
The engine cowl is factory insulated.Has anyone tried adding extra insulation or fitting a better type insulation to the cowl.
Someone may have tried fitting a material inside or outside of cowl.
 

kenmyfam

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Re: Motor too noisy..any ideas ???

If the motor is running as it should be then I can only suggest ear plugs. If they could be quieter then I am sure they would be. I hope you are not going to tell us you don't like the 2 stroke smell either !!!!
 

tashasdaddy

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Re: Motor too noisy..any ideas ???

i have seen boats that the owner built a cowl (box) above the splash well, it really cuts down on noise.
 

Silvertip

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Re: Motor too noisy..any ideas ???

I could only suggest the use of lead-foam but it is heavy. There is also an aftermarket insulation used in auto restoration that is applied to firewalls and floors before carpet is installed. That might be more effective than the standard foam insulation used in the cowl. Keep in mind the cowl has air inlet and outlets that must not be covered. A great deal of noise escapes from these holes.
 

strikem

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Re: Motor too noisy..any ideas ???

I could only suggest the use of lead-foam but it is heavy. There is also an aftermarket insulation used in auto restoration that is applied to firewalls and floors before carpet is installed. That might be more effective than the standard foam insulation used in the cowl. Keep in mind the cowl has air inlet and outlets that must not be covered. A great deal of noise escapes from these holes.

Sounds like a good idea..I'll check it out..thanks
 

dajohnson53

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Re: Motor too noisy..any ideas ???

There's an online company I bought some insulating material from a few years ago for my large and small outboards. They specialize in noise reducing materials and actually had something called an "outboard kit". The material is a typical looking foam sheet with contact glue on one side and sliver reflective material on the other. The foam has a thin layer of heavy vinyl to dampen sound. I bought this stuff because both of the engines I was working with were very old and the original material was falling off, etc.

I do believe it made both engines a little quieter. It was certainly more substantial than the very thin open cell foam that was in place on the old Johnson V6.

However, the principles of sound transmission just don't let you do much with cowling insulation. First, you need to leave the air passages open. Sound insulation depends very, very much on completely shutting off the sound source. A tight fitting door will have an exponentially better ability to lessen sound from the next room than a door that is even open just a crack. On your engine cowling, those little air passages - again tthey are ESSENTIAL - will let a surprisingly large amount of sound through from the engine. You can't do anything about that and shouldn't even try.

Secondly, almost ALL of the noise of an outboard comes out through the exhaust port on the leg, and through the prop hub. The prop hub is of course below the water, and that's a good muffler. But there's still a lot of sound that escapes, and there's absolutely nothing you can do about it.

You should try that kind of foam (foam w/ heavy vinyl layer), and you might hear a difference, but it won't change from noisy to quiet - most you can expect is "not so noisy". For me it was worth it, but most likely not noticable to anyone else.

Good luck.
 

05GlastronSX

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Re: Motor too noisy..any ideas ???

I am and always will be a fan of 2 strokes. I love the sound, smell and performance you get from them, all in a simple, lightweight package. However, in this case, if you can afford it, you might want to think about buying a fourstroke. They are quiet at nearly all rpm (except probably 3/4 throttle to WOT). A 2 stroke 2 cylinder 60 is going to be a rough idling, loud motor due to it only having 2 cylinders. My 1992 40 h.p 4 cylinder is nearly as smooth and quiet as the new fourstrokes. As a matter of fact, just a couple weeks ago i got asked by 2 different people, "is that a four stroke?" just when i started it up and trolled away slowly. Should have seen the look on their face when i told them it was a 4 cylinder, 1992 40 h.p.
 
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