My 1957 S-147

MuskyHunterDave

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Re: My 1957 S-147

Beautiful Job on the Resteration !!!

She's a real sweet looking Duratech Now !!

Dave
 

labattomy

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Thanks Dave ! - There a few more things needing attention, like the windshield gasket and the emblem, but overall it is a great boat.

I enjoy it all summer, I run the Mark 20 on it when I feel like racing, then I have a '56 Evinrude 5.5 fisherman and a '56 Johnson 18 for the other days...
 

JoeMan

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Dan, she is a beauty and I'm sure she's a lot of fun. My guess is that when you scraped off the old flaking paint, you found a faded reddish pink vinyl underneath? What kind of prep work or paint did you use over the existing decking, or did you strip it all off?
 

labattomy

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Hello Joe,

Well I was lucky that there was no paint on the hull at all ! So that was lucky. When I found it (as shown in the last pic on the far right) the PO (Previous Owner) had partially restored the seat backs, but that was about it.

The remnants of the 'DuraDeck' were faded pink as you noted and stuck to the bow aluminum like iron. I tried scraping but only was able to get a few small chunks up. So I decided to use a trick I have used on epoxy paints and aircraft skin - I used Aircraft Remover - this is a serious paint remover that will remove your skin too. Use gloves and goggles, and cover up good.

What I did was first remove the bumpers from the gunwale (had to use a drill as the screws were rusted), also drilled out any rivets (careful to not expand the holes any larger than they were.)

I gathered some saran wrap clear plastic and then some disposable paint brushes. On a warm day I covered about a 1 foot section at a time with the Aircraft remover stripper (brush in one direction only) and then covered it with the plastic (to slow the evaporation)

After 1 hour or so I went back and peeled up the plastic and did a test scrape - if the glue and the vinyl came up nice, I went after it with my scraper.
Repeat until the whole deck is mostly cleaned. Then there will be the tough spots, just go back over them with more stripper and give it more time (it will bubble the glue and Duradeck) - DO NOT LET THE STRIPPER DRY OUT - it will be harder than epoxy...
It took a good day but I got it all, most of the top deck was still shiny clean aluminum under all that !

For the replacement 'Duradeck' I went to Joann Fabrics and got enough red marine vinyl to cover the deck. Make sure to get enough to cover the bow in one piece, Measure carefully. It comes in a standard width that is *just* wide enough and I seem to remember getting 6' of it.
Also pick up a can of 3M trim spray adhesive (black can)and a tube of 3M super trim adhesive.
I brought the boat into the garage and cleaned the deck with some acetone to remove any grease. Then I carefully found the best way to place the vinyl. I peeled 1/2 of the vinyl back (ie front to about midway back on the bow) and then sprayed the underside of the vinyl with the can of adhesive, it gives a really wide neat spray pattern - I did the same on the aluminum. wait a couple minutes for the adhesive to set up, go back over a little to cover the blank areas, but make sure it is even.
then carefully bring the vinyl back forward onto the glue - IT WILL STICK IMMEDIATELY WITH NO ADJUSTING ALOWED ! - Carefully from the center out, smooth it with your hand (clean the glue off you hand first !) - get all the bubbles out. - tease it into place until you are happy with it. Then do the same for the back half.
You have a little bit of time until it is set, but really you should go for the final fit right from the beginning. get the bubbles out. If you screw up you "might be able to peel off and try again, but be aware of clumps of glue that will show through.
Keep in mind that it fits so flat on the surface, you will see the rivets down the deck !

After the main piece was stuck down, go for the edges, have your bumper trim ready and the new Stainless screws. I pulled the vinyl tight and snug and used the super trim adhesive in a tube to stick the edges down. use rubber gloves and change them often, smear the glu on both the vinyl and the aluminum.

Screw the bumper trim on and then cut the excess vinyl off along the bottom
the dash trim is a little trickier and I used rivets, but same process, and in the sun the vinyl gets stretchier, so you can use that to help in the corners...

Since mine did not have the Gunwale trim, I was done, but I imagine the same techniques would work there.

I restored my vinyl 3 years ago, and the boat sits uncovered in the sun all summer with no cover and it did not peel or anything. I am sure it has faded a little though, but not too much. I remove the windshield and the steering wheel each fall and flip the boat over and store it outside.. I am rough on it and I use the boat all summer.

I hope this helps someone...
Dan
 

JoeMan

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Wow! What a process. You are the first person I know who has actually re-applied some sort of vinyl to the decking. THIS is a perfect example of just how valuable this forum can be. It's great to get emails to through the Duratech site...but here, everyone benefits from ideas and processes others have done. Thanks Dan, for explaining.

I have used aircraft stripper as well - truly, this is the most amazing product to strip difficult paint...and as we both found out...Duradecking! My Duradeck was spoiled by decades of weather and much previous abuse, so I had to strip all of it off. StripEase did a "little" bit, but not much. Aircraft stripper was the ticket. After cleaning the aluminum, I applied a two part primer and automotive paint via sprayer.

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I have also used the 3M adhesive spray as well. Dan's process of using it for new deck vinyl is appreciated...now here is another idea for y'all. The inner sides of the hull from underneath the gunwale down to the floor is an area you may choose to paint...or cover with thin outdoor carpeting or even headliner. I cut the pieces to fit, sprayed thoroughly with 3M adhesive, and stuck it on. Finishes the interior very nicely!
 

labattomy

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Wow Joe, Beautiful finish ! I had to look at the 1st pic a few times to realize that was a reflection like a mirror off the bow !!

Yes Aircraft remover is amazing, and for the duradeck, it can take some time to loosen it. I learned not to rush it, just let the stripper do the work.
The reason you apply it in only one direction is to lessen the evaporation. Why is this? because the stripper will form a 'skin' as it start working and this is there to let the nasty chemicals loosen the paint and not evaporate. This is fine if the paint comes up easily, BUT for Duradeck, and the adhesive, you need to let it sit for hours (even days) for this length of time I cover it with the saran wrap and keep my eye on it so it does not dry.


I am thinking of painting the floor of my boat with some sort of gray paint, maybe with sand in it to give it grip.

I will post again for how I restored my steering wheel.

/Dan
 

JoeMan

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Perhaps as you consider painting your floor, you might consider inserting some small sections of wood in front of and between the seats so as to provide some flat surface to step on as folks get in and out. Also nice for your feet to not feel like they're sliding left or right on the angled floor when you're sitting on the right or left sides. Easy and cheap. Cut the wood sections, then cover with thin outdoor carpet (gray, black, etc), wrapping the carpet around the edges and stapling underneath. Screw the pre-carpeted pieces to the floor ribs in just a few spots. Of course, the wider the wood sections, the higher it will come since the edge of the wood is sitting on the hull floor. Just an idea. Finishes it nice and is safer to step down onto.
 

JoeMan

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Dan - since I see the GT-150 in your signature...take a peek at this. It is the site I built for my brother, which includes runabout restoration as part of his business in Michigan. Several of my Duratech pics are in there (several rows down in the gallery), but you will appreciate the GT-150 in rows 1 and 2. Due to the economy and his financial situation, this is now the only boat he owns. Check picture #4 - the paint is gorgeous. There is also a link to a YouTube video there, although his boat is performing better now than when the footage was taken. You'll be able to see by the decking that the footage was shot from the Duratech. :)

http://www.dmirestoration.com/pb/wp_4a2cbdb6/wp_4a2cbdb6.html
 

labattomy

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Great job on the GT-150 restore, I have pics of mine that I will have to post, I did not do anything with paint -still original Orange and white. But I did put a new floor in it and rebuilt the seat frames. It does need restoration, those are know to have transom failures and will cause engines to fall off !

I have an 1973 Mercury 850 85 hp motor with the hydraulic tilt and trim - really nice feature.

For the James Bond 'Live and Let Die' movie they used about 26 boats to get those shots. They strapped a 135hp Evinrude on it (boat is only rated at 90hp) and they moved the steering wheel to the center for balance. They also put guide strips on the bottom to guide it up the ramp. If you watch the movie carefully during the sequence where they jump the boat over the road, you can see these things. also you can see the stunt drivers hair is a bit longer than Roger Moore !
That jump still is a Guiness world record at 120 feet over a road.
 

labattomy

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Here is a pic of my GT-150 after I fixed it up a little. I live on Lake ontario and it is sitting in the front yard...

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JoeMan

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Nice shot. Nothing wrong with classic original!

Did you see the one on eBay a year or two ago which said it was one of the ones they had for the movie, but ended up not using? I don't recall how much it sold for. The economy really seems to dictate how much a GT-150 goes for on eBay. I've seen really nice ones go for 2k or less...then other nice ones a year later get 4 - 5k.
 

labattomy

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I have not seen one from the movie, but i imagine they exist still, would be a neat piece of history for sure !

I just fixed my photo, instead of attaching I attached the link and then it shows up better.

I got mine for $500 (and months of begging the reluctant owner) It came with a trailer and a blown-up Merc 850. I dragged it home and used a shovel to remove the remnants of the floor and years of garbage and beer cans (it was the son's boat for a while)

I replaced one stringer, sealed it up, replaced the floor, carpet, seat frames. I did not repaint or re-upolster the seats as I was not sure how much I wanted to spend on it. I have more fun using the toys as opposed to making a garage queen that i am afraid to ruin !

i added the til-trim and put a new powerhead on the the motor (from Ebay) so as it sits in the picture I have about $1K into it. I use it regularly, but not on the lake !
I took it out that day I took the pictures and all was well until the wind whipped up - like it always does. On the way back to the marina I ran into some waves (2-4') - well as you know from driving that boat it is only intended for flat water ! the first wave hit and then the bow dug in on the way down, the next wave came right up the bow, over the windshield and into my lap ! Wow was that exciting ! I did that a few more times and decided it was not meant for the lake - the bilge pump was working overtime !

I run it now in the 'pond' in our backyard - which is about 165 acres - it never gets that rough...

I may do more fixing and restoration to it, but right now it is my only 'big' boat and it runs and drives so well, I just like to enjoy it...
 

avgjoekooch

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Hello guys. I have a S-147 it looks a little different. The bow cover is shorter and there is no steering wheel. It also has three bench seats. The rest of the boat looks exactly the same. Was this model available in styles?
 

JoeMan

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Yes...in 1957 (the year represented by the '7' in S-147), there were 3 Sealine 14 footers.

S-147: Sealine utility boat; bench seating, no steering or windshield.
S-147-R Sealine Runabout: front decking, windshield, steering, front seats have back support.
S-147-RD: Sealine Runabout Deluxe; same as the runabout, but has rear decking around the splash well area, as well as a padded rear bench with back.

Dan (Labbotomy here on the forum) actually has the S-147-R. You can see the S-147-RD on the Duratech website in the gallery, as owned by Colby: http://www.duratechboats.com/pb/wp_f1bdb4da/wp_f1bdb4da.html Colby changed the seat upholstery to black and white, replacing the original red and white.

Your hull is the very same as the R and RD models - very tough indeed. Post a pic if you're able. :)

Please send a quick email to the Duratech site at duratech@duratechboat.com
 

avgjoekooch

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Thanks Joeman. The boat stored away for winter. I'll take some photos in the spring.
 
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