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dropbear68

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Cover off, engine is a mixture of various engines, the head is off a late model Chrysler, power head is 85HP, note the spoofy power pack lol
 

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My bilge pump work as you can see by the two holes one either side of the keel, twin 1000 GPH pumps with float switches, yet to wire them in but getting there
 

dropbear68

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Are there any performance tricks for the Chrysler 3 cyl motors?
 

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Yeah! You can port them and get up to 10 HP per cylinder. See my thread from last season about porting and adding exhaust volume to increase performance. This engine has not yet been tested but I have high hopes.

There are no bolt-on modifications to increase engine power. HOWEVER:

Your engine has the older 2 piece lower unit. If you can find a 2 to 1 ratio lower or even a gearpak to swap into it you will gais 3-5 MPH. If you swap your block and cowls onto a newer one piece midleg and 2 to 1 lower you will gain about 8 MPH.
 

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Nice stuff frank, can you PM me the details of what you have done, how much to take out of the ports etc, Ill get a spare block and build one up, many thanks for the pics, good work as usual, cheers andy
 

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I have a spare gear box for mine likely of an 85, how do I work out if its a 2to1 ratio?
 

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To optimize what you have.
Tachometer?
You should run about 52-5500rpm at wot.
Any lower/higher? Wrong prop.
My boat(twin 85's) comes with 17p I tried for more speed and performance.
Went to a 19p Got about 3 mph more and used about 20% more fuel.
 

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When the motor is behaving it gives me 5500RPM no worries but it only take a leak in the fuel hose or a bilge full off water and a one armed canoest will beat me home. I have 3 spare props I havent looked at the pitch on these but I will, doesnt seem to b e much around in the way of aftermarket props, which is a shame, its not a race boat but if I need to beat bad weather that extra 3 or 5 MPH is a big help, fuel economy is a big one too, I find the big Chrys to be ok, I had a V4 Johnson 85 and it needed a tanker being towed behind if you wanted to spend all day on the water , on average I use 50 litres of fuel on a trip which is tolerable cost wise.
 

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I did some work today, I had the keel repaired so decided to paint the repair, got some nice single pack enamel which is laquer based, proper marine goo, i was so impressed with the finish I painted the whole damn boat, by brush took me two hours and now its dry you cant see a single brush mark, helps I painted houses for 30 years, it looks really nice and new looking, so now I have to paint the trailer to match and that bimini top is letting it down so have to replace it too, as I routinely paint my out board to keep ontop of corrosion and I love the white off the Chrysler Ill slap a coat of this stuff over tomorrow, so once its all tarted up and the trailers done Ill put up some more pics.
 

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That's the other benefit of replacing the midleg and lower unit with a one piece: You have a larger selection of props. Those old thrust pin 18 splie props, while nice looking simply are not available new. you need to find them on ebay. AND---No hubs are available for repair of a spun prop.

Now, as far as porting: Do both bypass and exhaust on the three cylinder engines. Do not raise the top of the ports as this changes timing. That's OK for racing but not for recreationasl boating. I used to square the ports by hand with a dremel and carbide bit but that puts too much vibration into my fingers. Now, I chuck an end mill into the drill press and simply remove the inter-port webs, leaving the center web and two oval ports. A lot quicker and I have one test engine which will be run later in the season to see if it works as well or better.As you can see from the photos, I have also experimented with porting the cylinder liner and piston skirt on the bypass side.

To tell if your lower unit is a 2 to 1, put the unit in forward gear and back up the prop untill it engages the drive dogs, Now mark the prop and turn the drive shaft 2 full turns. If the prop spins only once, it is 2 to 1 . If it spins about 1 1/4 turns, then the lower unit is 1.73 to 1. In the two piece lower units, I THINK that the only 2 to 1 was the three cylinder 90 but there is a possibility that one of the 4 cylinder engines (like 135) also had it. As far as I know, the old 85 had the 1.73.ratio.

If you elect to port the piston skirts, You must first clean the block and have the piston, rod, and crank assembly connected. Then turn each piston to top dead center and drill through the block and piston at the same time. I used a 0ne inch hole drilled with a one inch countersink resting againts the two corners of the bypass. After porting remove everything and clean well--you can see the amount of metal chips in the photos.
 

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Your trim/tilt work? You use it while underway?
You gotta remember 70 hp on a boat that size ain't gonna set any speed records???
With the cabin forward like that it really needs the trim/tilt to run right.
 

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Yep your right wieght is critical for my machine, I really need the trim to work it does take her a lil while to plane and settle shes still nose high which concerns me, I might fit a hydrafoil and see if this settles it, Ill play with the trim during the week and see if an oil flush and change will fix it, I havent water tested since the outboard has been correctly fastened to the transom with the clamps that were very loose, that 8 mil of play may have been making the trim not work, dont want to try this with just the garden hose, the 70s are a good lugger and it works hard and doesnt give trouble much any extra MPH which can be had is worth having specially when your trying to out run weather which can set in real fast here and the sea can turn into a nightmare.
 
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