My little contribution...

saumon

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Hi everybody,<br /><br />first of all, please excuse my english (i'm french speaking). Here's my little contribution.<br /><br />It's a STH not when boating or fishing but, instead, just when trying to spend all my wage in a used kicker i bought (read: try to made it run properly)<br /><br />When i first got this 1986 8hp Merc, i begin by removing the prop to check if there's tangled line, seal leak, check shaft condition etc. Prop nut come easily (nylon lock type) then, oups, another nut under. First time i see this! Maybe a two nuts lock system for added safety? Give it a try with the ratchet, don't move an eight of an inch. Hum...try a wrench, nothing. Insert a second wrench at the end of the first one for added strength, same result. Scratch my head (i remember the quote "if it doesn't work, try a bigger hammer") and took a breaker bar, with no more luck. At this point, the prop goes approx. 1 in. deep through the 2x4 that i place to prevent it from rotating. Oh yeah, i also almost empty a can of WD-40 on it! Total time: 2 hours.<br /><br />Later, when comtemplating the lower unit in my basement while tasting a little beverage, i just grab the "nut" with my fingers and gently pull it out: it came easily! It's a spacer that look like a nut, with the shape of a nut but that was slided onto the splined shaft. Feel really dumb ;) <br /><br />By the way, i can't figure out why did they design this spacer this way instead of the more common washer type. Maybe an engineer conspiracy to drove me crazy :D
 

saumon

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Re: My little contribution...

When we're at it, STH no.2 was: buying this used motor, at what i think was a fair price, without knowing nothing to outboards mech. The previous owner start it and make it run in a barrel for 30 sec. Hey, it run! The deal was done. We're in winter.<br /><br />Three months later i had a chance to run it. After some bogging on the water, i discover iboats forums, read a lot, get a Seloc manual and bought some tools.<br /><br />Here' what i found:<br />1. Compression on both cylinders was 75. Wasn't great.<br />2. Lower unit vent hole threads were stripped. Oil was milky white and there's a yellowish-brown foamy ooze comming out of the exhaust port. I think it's a bad sign.<br />3. It won't idle. Had to stay on choke to run. Hum, Houston we had a problem!<br /><br />I try to reach the previous owner by phone. Guess what? He move. Did a mention that i also forgot to take is full name when i made the deal? (First name doen't help much, there's a lot of Robert up there, like everywhere!)<br /><br />So, here's what i do:<br />1. Decarb with Seafoam and reach 90 on both cylinders. Not so bad.<br />2. Re-tap an oversized vent hole and found a stainless steel screw that fit. Still getting water in oil. Bought a complete water pump kit, including the drive shaft and shift shaft seals. It fix the problem. We progress. No more water nor foamy ooze.<br />3. Bought a complete carbs overhaul kit. Yeah, it idle smoothly!<br /><br />Conclusion: for almost the price of a new one, i own an old outboard :eek: At least it run fine. I think it's part of what is called, in your language, the "learning curve". For sure i learn a lot on this one and will know what to look for next time.(I think i understand why it's named a "curve": if you go too fast, you'll end up in the ditch!).
 

all thumbs

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Re: My little contribution...

HI Saumon, Alot of us familar with the "learning curve". Years ago I had a 65 plymouth and was trying to take one of the right side wheels off. I rounded every lug nut, nothing moved. I found out the hard way about right hand threads... Good luck with your old new outboard.
 

saumon

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As it seems that bad things come by bunch of three, here's is another one, always on the same "learnig bench": when puting it all together and making the adjustements after a complete carbs overhaul, i confuse the idle speed screw with the idle timing screw.<br /><br />Apparently they don't deserve the same function :D
 

Winger Ed.

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Re: My little contribution...

Originally posted by saumon:<br /> excuse my english (i'm french speaking). :D
Since I only speak one language besides 'Jive',,<br /><br />I must say your English-- as a 2nd language--<br />is perfect. <br /><br />Although not quite fluent--you more than make up for that shortcoming with humor.
 

Brew2

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Re: My little contribution...

That's a good one...I like the "learning curve" analogy.<br /><br />I think you got a good long term deal on the motor. You would have arrived at the same performance level and cost with either the new or used motor, but gained all that repair knowledge!<br /><br />OK...I don't quite buy that either, but it sounds good!!<br /><br />Cheers, <br /><br />Brew
 
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