My winter '09-'10 Bayliner Capri refit (lots of reading)

F14CRAZY

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The vessel of discussion, my 1985 Bayliner Capri 1952.

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http://forums.iboats.com/showthread.php?t=272749&page=4&highlight=fabric+oz+stringers

Above is last winter's thread detailing my work of gutting the hull and installing new stringers and deck.

After spending countless hours over the winter I (understandably) was dying to get the boat back on the water, so I did. My deck and stringers were finished and all but there were a lot of small details I wasn't able to get to both with money constraints and the boat being stored under the carport (err boatport) at our cottage. I've towed it back home and have it back in the heated section of the barn, so its winter '09-10 refit! Today I wrote down a list of stuff and took some pix. I'd like to know any suggestions or concerns you guys have over what I intend to do.

Drive system

-replace shift cable: I've used the "nominal neutral" procedure which helped, but it seems that the cable has stretched just about to its limit so its like its barely going into reverse AND forward. I've adjusted the cable length at the shift converter in both directions but it seems it makes one better, the other worse. Is it at all possible to shorten the cable a tiny bit and have like a bicycle shop replace the ends? I understand it's right to spend a money but new OMC cables on ebay are pushing like $400. Last spring I tore the sterndrive apart and replaced all the seals and inspected the shift gears which i thought, and was told, were in good shape.

-drill and retap bolts holes: On the sterndrive there's a bolt or two that have broken off on the exhaust ports...the covers on the pivot joint...is that makes sense. Wasn't caused by me. I'll get a heli-coil kit and fix them but I'd imagine that drilling out stainless steel bolts in aluminum won't be easy.

-strip old paint from sterndrive: I got thinking, is it possible to strip the paint, polish the housings, and clearcoat them? My Series 400 would have a sweet chrome-like finish :cool:. If this truly isn't possible I'll just strip, prime, and paint following the instructions in another thread.

-replace oil pan gasket: it seeps

-fix block leak: the previous owner didn't drain the block and let it freeze, so behind the manifold there's a crack that's pretty much the entire length of the block. They JB welded it but part of it failed so there's a tiny trickle when under way. I removed the manifold, ground down the bad spot, and re-JB welded it but it came back. I'll knock it all off and call over a mobile welder that I have a good relationship with and have him braze it. Either that or I'll bring it to him. After cruising for a few hours there's a noticeable amount of water in the bilge, not enough to trigger the pump but I really don't like having water inside if I don't have to. And the leak could very well get worse.

-replace hoses: on the Lake Superior lakeshore the hose running from the thermostat housing to the intermediate housing ruptured. I didn't notice it until the boat had a list and I happened to look back and saw water on the deck coming through the drain holes. I had to yell "where the F is that water coming from!?". Luckily it was near the end so I was able to cut off the bad part and reinstall it BUT due to that incident I intend on replacing all the hoses on the engine.

-fix the skeg:

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The previous owner(s) nailed bottom a number of times. It had a stainless prop which had a good number of nicks in it. I've read here that the extra inertia weight is bad for the OMC shift mechanism so I switched to the aluminum prop that came with it (and is still in good shape). As I understand it the skeg is mostly to protect the prop in case you touch bottom. Would it be ok if I had my welder heli-arc on a new chunk? It won't be too hot for the internals will it? Should I drain the oil?

-Shift housing seals: last spring when I tore apart the sterndrive to fix the bent prop shaft and install new seals I noticed that the shift cable inside the sheath had been wet. Being that the sheathing had no cracks or breaks I've assumed that water had been coming in from the sterndrive end...the cable terminates in a housing with a couple pulleys and has a gear outside of it that engages the rack that controls shifting (hope that explains it). My local marina sucks...they're still an Evinrude dealer and I've been able to get OMC parts before but they were in denial about the seal. I took the cable into them to have a service tech use the special puller tool to remove the shaft that the external gear rides on so I could replace the seal but they claimed it couldn't be remove...bs, you can't tell me that when the service manual tells how to do it and the parts catalog has the part numbers for the special tool and the seals :rolleyes:. Well, wtf-ever, I ordered the necessary stuff wholesale online from a BRP dealer and will replace the seals myself. This fix is obviously related to the replacement of the shift cable above.

-replace tilt housing cover and reseal:

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Someone before me broke a couple of the corners off of the tilt housing cover, hence the RTV you see (and I misplaced the fill plug, of which I later found). I'll find another one on ebay or something and replace it along with a new O ring. I also suspect that the seal on the shift itself, behind the gear connected with the rack, is leaking because its physically loose. Oh, and it fails a pressure/vacuum test. I'll see about replacing the bearing in there as well.

-depth sounder: the little bracket that holds it in place broke, so when underway it swings backwards and doesn't do any good except at no wake speeds. I think I'll skip the bracket and just mount it in the bilge.
 

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Interior

-reinforce the engine compartment:

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On both sides of the engine compartment the epoxy fillets are showing some cracking. I used fillets along with 4'' tape everywhere else inside except for here. It seems the fillets themselves couldn't take the Small Craft Advisory pounding (no screws nor tape). Can I grind down the fillet and the paint in the area and replace the fillet but use some tape with it this time?

-add sound deadening stuff to engine compartment and cover: I recently made another thread about this and will either use the roll of Fatmat I've had laying around and/or closed cell foam. It seems either will be cheap easy, and effective.

-add cabin lighting: I'll either go with some battery powered taplight-like lights, or my sweet idea of using 12V rope lighting :cool:. This will go along with my idea of using vinyl covered plywood panels (like luon) for a luxurious, limo feel

-audio: I already have a nice Pioneer head unit mounted in the cabin. I'd like to add a wired remote to the dashboard and switch to four 6x9'' speakers instead of the two 5.25''s I currently have. Add a marine Sirius antenna and an external FM antenna.

-new seats: I want to keep the ability to fold the seats out to sleep people. My mom did a nice job of recovering them but the foam is shot and the boxes aren't in the best shape. West Marine sells some that will replace them, about $225 each. I'll see about a better price (check here on iboats first).

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-instrument panel: The actual panel itself is shot, I'm thinking to replace it with a nice, finished piece of wood. My tach and ammeter are out of commission so I'm thinking about shopping for a good price and replacing them all.

-bilge pump switch: the automatic floating switch is half-broken so I'll probably replace the whole thing.

-bilge blower: out of commission, will replace.


Exterior

-reseal penetrations: The bow rail mounts, windshield mounting screws, etc have let water leak into the cabin before. As a quick fix I put silicon over everything but I'd like to remove everything and reseal with 4200 or 5200.

-address holes: did these boats come with a windshield wiper? There's a switch for it and a hole in the cabin roof in front of the pilot's windshield. I either need to find the wiper motor or fill the hole. I also believe someone had a VHF antenna near the horn since there's 4 holes there. I've been thinking of getting one...I have a handheld but the extra wattage of a mounted unit and a real antenna could come in handy someday.

-sand/polish gelcoat:

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This probably isn't the best photo to show the condition of the gelcoat but I just can't get it to shine. Well, I used the 3M stuff for "heavily oxidized" gelcoat with a buffer and it looked good for maybe two weekends. I'll search some old threads but what do you guys suggest to do to sand or polish the gelcoat? The large decals (like the blue above the rub strip) is a bit dull too.

-Fix snaps and make a new transport/storage cover: Some snaps on the hull are just shot. Also, a lot of them simply aren't in the right spot for the "camper" cover and the "side glass". I intend on adding snaps in the right places. Also my transport cover is pretty well worn. My mom is able and willing to sew up a new one. I also need to come up with a pole for the center. I've discovered this season that the cover is worth a couple MPG when trailering :eek:


There's some other tiny things I'll be taking care of along the way. I definitely appreciate the help you've given me since I bought this things and joined the forum and of course will appreciate the tips you give me on all the stuff listed above :)
 

F14CRAZY

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Re: My winter '09-'10 Bayliner Capri refit (lots of reading)

bump maybe? I picked up the cabin material at lowes on sunday
 

Spin 53

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Re: My winter '09-'10 Bayliner Capri refit (lots of reading)

Hi F14 I own the same year and Hull, but mine has an OB.
I've been going nuts looking for ideas on the cabin. As of now all i've done is the cabin entry. Keep posting for I need insperation or a Kick in the $%^ to get going.
Best of Luck
Spin .
 

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Re: My winter '09-'10 Bayliner Capri refit (lots of reading)

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I found a cool looking NOS set of US Marine gauges on ebay

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Working on the new cabin doors
 

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work in progress

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starting to look like a boat again :D
 

ezmobee

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Your work is looking GREAT! The cabin doors look awesome.
 

bacafrog

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How did you make that side panel look like it came from the factory? I am curious how you got the inside corners looking perfect. All in all it looks pretty good to me.
 

Juniinc

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Looking good man!
diggin those guages.
I just sold my old Bayliner, almost same as yours a bit bigger (84 Capri 225)
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Your work is looking GREAT! The cabin doors look awesome.

thanks. It took quite a while to get them sanded, stained, and coated with polyurethane but they came out pretty well.

How did you make that side panel look like it came from the factory? I am curious how you got the inside corners looking perfect. All in all it looks pretty good to me.

I wouldn't say the inside corners look perfect but I figured that the best way to do it without sewing is to make the 45 degree inside cut for the corner but stick a piece of scrap vinyl in there so it doesn't expose the wood, if that makes sense. I'll take a better photo of a corner when I upload again for you.

Looking good man!
diggin those guages.
I just sold my old Bayliner, almost same as yours a bit bigger (84 Capri 225)

While not totally authentic, I found these nos US Marine gauges on ebay for $125 I think.

I've seen one of those 22' Capri's like yours but it was the same exact color as mine...I was like hey, that's my boat, just a notch bigger in every dimension lol
 

bacafrog

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Thanks, I would like to see a close up pic. After this season is over the wife and I are going to redo our entire interior, so I am trying to learn how to do it before hand.
 

madurodave

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looks great!
 

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Thanks, I would like to see a close up pic. After this season is over the wife and I are going to redo our entire interior, so I am trying to learn how to do it before hand.

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On the backside I make a 45 degree cut so the vinyl can be stapled and stick a piece of scrap in where the wood and foam would otherwise be exposed by the cut.

I've got the port side finished but for some reason I can't find the photo on my camera. Side panel is mounted, new speakers installed (along with new 14 gauge wire instead of the like, 22 gauge old stuff), and new lounge seats are mounted. I'm pretty happy with the results.

I picked up another 1/4'' sheet and have commenced work on the starboard side panel

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Like with the port side panel I'll have to extend it since the length of the area to be covered exceeds 8 feet
 

bacafrog

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Thanks for the close up pics. I am wondering though... maybe a small amount of heat from a heat gun could give it enough stretch to shape it instead of having to cut it. When I get done with my interior I want it to look like it came from the factory.
 

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I was thinking about that actually. I'll try it with some scrap
 

bacafrog

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Cool, let me know how it works out.
 

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Here's the mostly finished port side

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When it gets warmer I'm going to repaint the non-skid paint. I've found that it just doesn't stick when applied cold. I plan on putting down Dry Dek (or however it's spelled)
 

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Hey man I caught you working on it. Hows the Buick doing? Great looking side panels. Your giving me ideals quit it. Looks great cant wait for an update
 

mattpyle

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Crap now I have all new ideas running through my head about how to do the side panels on my boat. That looks real good!
 
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