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[bstagner]

have a 1969 55hp 3 cylender want run right at idel read in the forum to rebuild carbs did that put on a new coil 'new fuel pump'new rotor/set and cleaned pionts got a ht battery runs good on top end when you start comeing down off of it it dies and is hard to crank again but if you let it set a few minutes it will crank instantly and we got 125lbs of compression on all three cylenders and only getting about a quarter inch spark from each plug wire but has a good blue spark dont know much else to do if there is a good johnson man out there please help thanks Brenda oh yea model#55ELs69A ser#J3011812 is there any way to correct this problem or is it just terminal done already drove me to drinking i want to go fishing but dont want to wash poor folks up on the bank but if i slow down the bi*** stops.

 

[Xcusme]

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Re: need help bad am new to the forum and have ordered the manuel and cant get n

Translation:<br /><br />I have a 1969 Johnson 55HP , Model 55ESL69, Serial # J3011812.<br />The motor will not run right at idle. I have read in the forum that I should rebuild the carbs. I have rebuilt the carbs, put on a new coil, replaced the fuel pump , replaced the rotor and cleaned the points. I have a 'hot' battery (??). <br /><br />The motor runs good at WOT, but while idleing down , the motor dies. After it dies, the motor is hard to crank again (turn over ??). After sitting a few minutes the motor cranks normally. The motor has 125lbs. of compression on all 3 cylinders. Each plug wire produces about a quarter inch blue spark to ground. I don't know what else to check. If there is a good Johnson Outboard mechanic out there, I would appreciate any advice. Are there any solutions to fix this problem, or is this motor a lost cause?? This motor is driving me to drink. I would like to go fishing but I can't slow this 'Mo-Fo" down.<br /><br />Thanks in advance for any suggestions.<br /><br />Cordially,<br /><br />Bstagner

 

[bstagner]

Re: need help bad am new to the forum and have ordered the manuel and cant get n

Re: need help bad am new to the forum and have ordered the manuel and cant get n

i know what you are saying xcuse me mine has done drove me to drinking and ive tried every thing and have been posting on this forum for weeks and you are the only one that has even responded and i just wanted to thank you and to tell you that i have done all the same things and dont no what else to do the first few times i read on here all i was seeing was buy a manuel so i figured that you must have to do that before you got any replies so i did weeks ago and have done every thing it says to do that i understand and nothing has worked so far but im had headed and i will some how get it going well if you hear anything new to try keep me posted and ill do the same my email is brendaberrys@yahoo.com send me yours thanks for the reply

 

[roscoe]

Re: need help bad am new to the forum and have ordered the manuel and cant get n

Re: need help bad am new to the forum and have ordered the manuel and cant get n

Sorry you have not been getting help.<br />I read one of your posts a few weeks ago, but have no knowledge of your motor.<br /><br />You say it starts ok.<br />Does it idle ok when you first start it?<br /><br />Here's what I'm thinking;<br />The timing advance might be sticking.<br />When you are running fast, then slow down, the carb is closing, but the timing is not retarding or going back to its low speed position.<br /><br />As I said, I don't know how your motor is set up, but it could be a bent linkage or a weak broken or missing spring.<br /><br />Your spark does seem to be weak also.<br />Have the sparkplug wires been replaced?<br />If so, make sure they are NOT automotive type wires. They must be "solid wire core", not carbon fiber. You can get solid wire core plug wires from NAPA or a marine dealer.<br /><br />Hopefully someone else will chime in here and give some suggestions.

 

[bstagner]

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Re: need help bad am new to the forum and have ordered the manuel and cant get n

thank you roscoe for the reply i havent changed the plug wires and see if it works also so do you know if there is a such thing as it maybe being a weak or bad power pack or something else ill try the spark plug wires and let yall know if it works thanks for your help b.b

 

[rwise]

Re: need help bad am new to the forum and have ordered the manuel and cant get n

Re: need help bad am new to the forum and have ordered the manuel and cant get n

bstagner<br />when it stops and is hard to restart, is it hot? How long has it been since the impeller was changed? Just my thoughts, good luck!<br />Richard

 

[JB]

Re: need help bad am new to the forum and have ordered the manuel and cant get n

Re: need help bad am new to the forum and have ordered the manuel and cant get n

Brenda.<br /><br />That engine is very sensitive to carb synchronization and linkage to the ignition.<br /><br />Get a Repair Manual and do the linkage and synchronization procedure.<br /><br />Let us know what results you get.<br /><br />Good luck.

 

[OBJ]

Re: need help bad am new to the forum and have ordered the manuel and cant get n

Re: need help bad am new to the forum and have ordered the manuel and cant get n

Just my $.02 worth here.....sounds like the sync and link is outta whack or the carb low speed needles are in need of adjustment. If the timing and carbs are not in time with each other, it won't idle for crap. If the needles are out of adjustment, ditto the above.<br /><br />Turn each carb needle in till it's LIGHTLY seated and then turn out 1 1/2 turns. Start the engine and let warm up to operating temp. Put the engine in gear, nice to have someone do this cause it's hard to steer, run the controls, make needle adjustments and drink a beer all at the same time. Anyways....start with the top carb and start adjusting the needle in about 1/8 turn at a time and wait for 15 secs for adjustment to effect engine. Do this until engine starts to idle bad and then go in the opposite direction until the engine idles bad. Turn the needle midway between these two points and go to the next carb.<br /><br />The procedure takes a while to do right. Let us know how you make out.....adjusting the carbs. Thanks.

 

[ByteWalker]

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Hi,<br />I've been working on my 30HP Johnson (yes, it's NOT the same motor as yours, but similar symptoms) and thought it might be helpful for you to read the thread "1956 Johnson RJE-18 30HP Carb Info Needed". If your motor has the high and low speed needle valve adjustments ??? just re-building the carb might not solve the problem. I found stripped threads in the low speed adjustment only after removing the carb and needle valves .... read the thread and see if it may apply to yours.<br />Sorry to butt in, but thought this info might help.

 

[Joe Reeves]

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(Carburetor Adjustment - Single S/S Adjustable Needle Valve)<br /><br />Initial setting is: Slow speed = seat gently, then open 1-1/2 turns.(Set all carbs to this setting before beginning the following adjustments)<br /><br />Pertaining to the following adjustments, do the top carb completely first before dropping down to the next carb. When finished, recheck the adjustments.<br /><br />NOTE: If the needle valve retainers at the front of the carb are BLACK or WHITE, replace them with RED retainers OMC number 315232. The RED retainer will keep them from moving due to viberation.<br /><br />Start engine and set the rpms to where it just stays running. In segments of 1/8 turns, start to turn the S/S needle valve in. Wait a few seconds for the engine to respond. As you turn the valve in, the rpms will increase. Lower the rpms again to where the engine will just stay running.<br /> <br />Eventually you'll hit the point where the engine wants to die out or it will spit back (sounds like a mild backfire). At that point, back out the valve 1/4 turn. Within that 1/4 turn, you'll find the smoothest slow speed setting. <br /><br />When you have finished the above adjustment, you will have no reason to move them again unless the carburetor fouls/gums up from sitting, in which case you would be required to remove, clean, and rebuild the carburetor anyway.

 

[bstagner]

Re: need help bad am new to the forum and have ordered the manuel and cant get n

Re: need help bad am new to the forum and have ordered the manuel and cant get n

we had the caebs rebuilt and it still wouldnt run right and then a man at an outboard shop put three new carbs together for me that has no ajustment and it is still doing the same thing sorry i forgot to tell yall that part but i just put them 3 on hopeing it would solve my problem but it dosnt run any better