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paulbelk

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I received a 2HP Eska Model # 14205A for FREE. It runs perfect but for the life of me I can't seem to get the propeeler to spin at all. There is not really any drag on it when I turn it by hand. Either way. It almost sounds like as if it is actually turning the motor. I can't figure out what is going wrong with it. I haven't started taking it all apart yet but was wondering a few things.

Do I have to have it in water for the propeller to spin?

Is there a place to engage the forward motion (like larger outboards) and i'm just not seeing it?

I don't understand. Please, ANYONE, Please help.

Also, it looks liek there is a slight curve in the shaft. Could it be broken? It sure doesn't seem like it.

Is it worth it to take this to a repair shop or not?
 
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mrcrabs

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Welcome to Iboats Paul and the world of Eska, your motor is an 1985ish, take a pic of both sides and the lower and post them if you can, I have never seen an Eska that new and it seems that your model was pretty much one of the last. I would recommend buying a manual from www.certifiedpartscorp.com they bought out all of eskas remaning inventory, you need to call them and give your model no. should be about 15$ thats were to start or you can check ebay and take you chances,
 
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Is there a place to engage the propeller on this?

I don't see anything lile that at all. Just a throttle.
 
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I think what you have may be based on the Tanaka TOB 175 or 300.
Some of these use a centrifigal clutch up under the powerhead.
 
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When you say shearpin, are you referring to the pin that holds the prop on?

That shearpin is there and is holding the prop on as well as engaging the drive. It seems as if it will turn the motor when turned by hand.

I just went and started it up and tried to run at full throttle and the engine dies as soon as I get past about mid throttle.

It's as if something is stuck inside but i can't imagine what it would be considering all turns well.
 
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Is it possible there is something wrong with that clutch you mentioned steelespike?
 
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I think what you have may be based on the Tanaka TOB 175 or 300.
Some of these use a centrifigal clutch up under the powerhead
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I;m completely wrong, sorry I did not recognize that engine and spoke to soon. Listen to steelespike, again sorry :eek:
 
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Re: Need help bigtime!!!

Does anybody happen to have a manual around to help me take this thing apart and find out what's wrong with the clutch?

Or maybe a place where I can get a free repair manual?

I can't se myself paying the $7.50 plus s&h just to get some photocopy of the original that doesn't even look to be that good of a copy.

Here's the link of where I found that. MANUAL

If I do buy it i'm going to plaster copies of it all over the place. I'm sure it's not a repair manual though. More just like an owners manual that tells you to take it to a qualified technician.

If anyone can find me a reapir guide for this specific model that'd be great.
 
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Go here <http://www.tanaka-usa.com/index.php?section=129> to find the illustrated parts breakdowns/exploded views of the Tanaka models steelspike mentioned.
I think he's right about it having a centrifugal clutch as well. The bent drive-shaft will have to be replaced/straightened before it's usable. Trying to run it as is may well damage the engine as well.
Tanaka USA maintains a large parts inventory. Just be aware that what you have is a nice canoe or dingy motor but you could quickly spend more than its market value to get it running. Might prove best in the long run to offer it for sale to someone who needs a parts motor. HTH, Tom
 
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[QUOTEI just went and started it up and tried to run at full throttle and the engine dies as soon as I get past about mid throttle.

It's as if something is stuck inside but i can't imagine what it would be considering all turns well.[/QUOTE]


The bent driveshaft has to be in a bind. I think what's happening is that when you get to the point you call 'half throttle' that the centrifugal clutch is trying to engage but can't because the driveshaft won't turn.

It's a cinch that it isn't going to run right until you correct the drive-shaft problem. The pics on the website I sent earlier should guide any shade-tree mechanic thru tear0down & re-assembly.
 
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Re: Need help bigtime!!!

ok, I just went to all the places you guys suggested and can't find anything like mine.

I have an ESKA Model# 14205A Serial# 38-362269.

Any help with this model would be great. There are some pics posted up farther in this thread if you need them.
 
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paulbelk said:
ok, I just went to all the places you guys suggested and can't find anything like mine.

I have an ESKA Model# 14205A Serial# 38-362269.

Any help with this model would be great. There are some pics posted up farther in this thread if you need them.
Click to expand...

Go back to the Tanaka site and compare parts. Ignore the top motor cover as Eska supplied that part and it will NOT appear on the Tanaka lists.

My bet is that it is either the TOB-175 or TOB-25 but it is up to you to figure out which one. The ball is in your court.

I checked the Eska ID site <http://home.earthlink.net/~brixent/eskaid.htm> and the list stops one model # before yours. The following quote is there however.

<All Eska Outboards with model numbers 14205 and above where built in 1985 - 1986. Eska closed and stopped production in 1986.
Most of those motors used a 50:1 Oil Mix. Plugs used where J-12-Y with a gap of .030>
 
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mrcrabs

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yep its a "tanaky" I don't consider them real Eskas so I don't know much about them, I can see that drive shaft looks like a couple springs and things at the bottom, then the shaft, I can see the bend in yours, looks like it would be binding...

I did realize by looking at the Tanaka site that my sears craftsman chain saw was a 'Tanaky"
 
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Well, none of those diagrams seemed to be exact but I will start tearing it apart looking for broken pieces and see what i can replace if possible.

Does anybody know the easiest way to bend that shaft back. The weird part about it is that the shaft seems to be bent forwards rather than backwards as if they were running the motor in reverse when they ran into something or bent it.

It just looks weird since if you were moving forward the shaft should be bent backward frm the motor (or boat) but not toward the motor.

Oddly enough, there is not one dent in any of the lower end stuff. Like as if it wasn't really used. Maybe this thing was supposed to have a slight curve in the shaft. I don't know. I do know it is all original and even the original paint. At least all the pic's that I have been able to find and compare it to.

One more quick question. Is it safe to say that there really isn't a lot I can screw up on tearing apart the drive shaft on this unit? And should I start from the bottom and work my way up? And again, How do I go about straighteneing that drive shaft?
 
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mrcrabs

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I really hate to answer this, no disrespect intended.
I doubt that it can be made suitable for use unless the shaft is not bent and only the shaft tube was affected, the shaft tube could possibly be made whole but the shaft its self will wobble regardless of the method...kind of like trying to straighten a gun barrel...its never going to shoot straight unless a gun smith puts it to the heat and remakes it,
but you might get lucky and get someone to try and use a press on it after you get it removed from the tube...the tube would be the easiest to straighten, I think :confused:
 
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