need help, lower unit issues

tjakobic

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When I use pliers to move the shafts the prop does go into neutral and then into reverse. But it always wants to go back into forward
 

tjakobic

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When I turn the drive shaft the prop was turning too. I'll need to check again to see if it's still doing that
 

Texasmark

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Let's be very clear on what you are telling me: You said: "When I use pliers to move the shafts the prop does go into neutral and then into reverse." You used the plural of the word shaft, did you really mean just one or more than one and if so which other?

Assuming you meant a singular shaft, 1 each, and that 1 each is the shift shaft stub sticking out of the front of the LU that was in your 1st picture. Is that correct?

Then you said: "But it always wants to go back into forward". What changes? Does something happen after you have gone through N to R? I assume you let go of the shift shaft with the pliers. Is that correct? Can you see it, the shift shaft, turn back to where it was before you turned it to where you got N and R gears?

Come back on that. I'm 8:22 CDT. and I see your light is on so you are either on her or left your computer on this sheet. I'll wait.

In case I miss you, if your answer was yes, then do the following: Get your pliers and turn the shift shaft until you can make the shifter go into N and R again like you said you just did. Carefully, back up through N and on back to F but don't go any farther than you have to in turning back toward F gear. Keep one hand on the prop as you are turning the shifter shaft and as soon as you feel the prop lock up, or start clicking, depending on which way you turn it, stop turning the shifter shaft.

Put the remote control in F gear with throttle full advanced. Carefully reinstall the LU and pull up a couple of nuts to hold it in place. Now place your shifter in N. Did the LU shift to N or not? If it didn't Chinewalker was right. If it did, you are good to go, button it up.

Remember when shifting into R the prop needs to be turning to ensure the cogs and pins line up. Don't force the remote into R without rotating the prop by hand if the engine is not running.
 
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tjakobic

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Yes to first question, when I move shift shafts with pliers the prop does click into neutral and then reverse.

When I turn the shift shafts into another gear it is really hard to do so, so when it clicks into neutral or reverse it seems like it's just taking one step back evert me if you move the prop the slightest bit. And it always slips right into forward gear.

I'm thinking that your intrusions will work. Not sure if I'll have time today to try.
 

racerone

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It slips back into forward due to the strong spring and possibly a worn shift cam.---That is to be expected.----So assemble it with lower in forward and control in forward !!!
 

tjakobic

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I'm phone keeps making me type shift "shafts" I do mean just one shift "shaft". I tried putting the shaft at the point where it will click into neutral then I put the controls on full throttle forward. I then put the lower unit back on and tried shifting into neutral, no go...
 

tjakobic

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Does it really matter where this black thing is positioned at? It has the arrow pointing at it.

 

tjakobic

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I do not see any purpose for it. I can see it if it pushed on something but it doesnt.
 

Texasmark

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It slips back into forward due to the strong spring and possibly a worn shift cam.---That is to be expected.----So assemble it with lower in forward and control in forward !!!


Thanks for the helping hand. Finally figured out that is what's happening out all of his......information.
 

Texasmark

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Texasmark I sent you a PM.


I answered it.

The cap you mentioned is not on all engines. Never had it on any of mine. Best I can guess, it's purpose is to do a better job in holding the shifter splined shaft in place. Essentially gives you support at the bottom, (the cam, which isn't support at all really), and the top.
 

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Thanks for all the help guys! Motor fixed!
Outstanding. It took so long because it was a remote assistance program. Had somebody been there with you it would have been a walk in the park. Go have fun.

Mark
 

tjakobic

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I put the controls full throttle then used pliers to shift the shift shaft ccw to the point where the shaft wanted to almost start to go into neutral then it lined up. I out two nuts on to hold LU in place then I shifted the controls in neutral, prop spins freely. Mission complete! Thanks again guys!!
 
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