Can't Cast
Seaman Apprentice
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- Feb 13, 2010
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Hey all,
I recently bought a 1978 Japanese Mariner model 15C (15 hp 2 cyl). I got it dirt cheap ($40). Previous owner said it ran several years ago, but won't start now.
I cleaned the carb (properly), and checked fuel pump diaphragms (both OK), but she still won't crank up. Compression is 100 & 101 PSI, and she gets fuel. I checked spark and lower cylinder is very weak orange. Did resistance test on ignition coil, and found secondary winding is 13k (should be 5-6k ohms). Top ignition coil is OK, and nice blue spark.
Now for my questions:
I cannot find a replacement coil, this is an old style points/ condenser magneto system with no CDI switches or any electronic ignition stuff. These ignition coils are no longer available, and I can't find a part # other than the marking on the coil, which are CM61-25 followed by AL810.
There are coils which are made for CDI ignition systems that are identical in appearance, but have different resistance values in both the primary and secondary windings (both are lower). These coils are available, but will they work properly in an old point type magneto system?
Also, one other question. Most outboards have different part #'s for upper and lower cylinder ignition coils. The coils look the same, and resistance is the same. Is there really any true difference in the coils, or is this just a marketing scheme?
Thanks in advance for any answers. Hopefully someone knowledgeable in this area can steer me in the right direction. I'm 99% sure I can get this puppy to run if I can find a coil that will work. I'm pretty handy with smaller outboards, but I'll admit I'm not a pro and sometimes need some "HELP"...
I recently bought a 1978 Japanese Mariner model 15C (15 hp 2 cyl). I got it dirt cheap ($40). Previous owner said it ran several years ago, but won't start now.
I cleaned the carb (properly), and checked fuel pump diaphragms (both OK), but she still won't crank up. Compression is 100 & 101 PSI, and she gets fuel. I checked spark and lower cylinder is very weak orange. Did resistance test on ignition coil, and found secondary winding is 13k (should be 5-6k ohms). Top ignition coil is OK, and nice blue spark.
Now for my questions:
I cannot find a replacement coil, this is an old style points/ condenser magneto system with no CDI switches or any electronic ignition stuff. These ignition coils are no longer available, and I can't find a part # other than the marking on the coil, which are CM61-25 followed by AL810.
There are coils which are made for CDI ignition systems that are identical in appearance, but have different resistance values in both the primary and secondary windings (both are lower). These coils are available, but will they work properly in an old point type magneto system?
Also, one other question. Most outboards have different part #'s for upper and lower cylinder ignition coils. The coils look the same, and resistance is the same. Is there really any true difference in the coils, or is this just a marketing scheme?
Thanks in advance for any answers. Hopefully someone knowledgeable in this area can steer me in the right direction. I'm 99% sure I can get this puppy to run if I can find a coil that will work. I'm pretty handy with smaller outboards, but I'll admit I'm not a pro and sometimes need some "HELP"...