need some advice before looking at a motor to buy early 70s 50hp Evinrude

[thdrduck]

If I were you I'd stay away from the Chrysler. Never met a Chrysler boat boat motor I liked. I once talked to a boat mechanic that said a "a Johnson\Evenrude is like a Timex, a Chrysler is like a sun dial". Just me... if you want more hp, keep an eye out for another boat with a motor in the hp that you want that works. Switch the motors, sell the boat that you don't want and you have a free upgrade, sort of. Seems you can get a boat/motor/ trailer cheaper then a motor.

 

[sutor623]

Seems you can get a boat/motor/ trailer cheaper then a motor.

Oh yea!

 

[Can'tFishEnough]

if you want more hp, keep an eye out for another boat with a motor in the hp that you want that works. Switch the motors, sell the boat that you don't want and you have a free upgrade, sort of. Seems you can get a boat/motor/ trailer cheaper then a motor.

well, that is what I was hoping this rig would be, but I just didn't have a super positive feeling about it, which is why I started asking on here. Glad I did. Funny part is the boat I have now was supposed to be an engine up grade from 15 to 25 on a 14 ft boat. turned out I liked the lay out of the newer one better so still stuck with essentially the same (slightly better) speed/power to load ratio. guess I'll just keep looking and saving up for something newer as was suggested (or at least unless he comes down on the price a lot more).

 

[oldboat1]

just a couple of additional thoughts --

I'm pretty much a J & E guy, but have also had very good luck with a range of Chryslers from 6hp to 105 -- no issues working on them or running them over a span of about 30 yrs. So the Chrysler rig pictured might be worth playing with, imo, after some basic testing. Because of reputation (deserved or not), would want to get it cheap, sell it cheap. If coming around to it at some point for a project, get a model number and maybe a pic of the powerhead w/o the cover. Some 55s had alternators, for example, others not -- can be very basic motors (a good thing imo, when rehabbing an old motor.) Frank A. is gone now, but great resources yet at the Chrysler/Force forum.

Whatever wheeling and dealing is involved to get the motor you want, though, try to avoid having to sell a bare hull -- getting rid of a 30 - 40 yr. old hull you don't want can be almost impossible, in my experience.

 

[sutor623]

Frank A. is gone now, but great resources yet at the Chrysler/Force forum.

RIP Frank. I dont get on Chrysler forum often, I didnt even know he had passed. That guy was THE Chrysler man!!!

 

[oldboat1]

RIP Frank. I dont get on Chrysler forum often, I didnt even know he had passed. That guy was THE Chrysler man!!!

​Yeah. good folks there, but Frank was a fixture. Huge talent.

 

[jimmbo]

Am I correct in thinking that this oil for the shifter is a separate hydraulic system from the trim/tilt, as well and that it's something integrated to the lower unit oil that's already in there?

Totally separate systems. That engine does/did have power trim, but it looks like the trim cylinder on the port side is broken

 

[Can'tFishEnough]

ok. for what it's worth - the yelllow boat with the 55hp Chrysler is a 1977 15ft Caddo last registered in 2000. (I have some more pics of it if anyone wants them - but that wasn't really the focus of my question) I'm pretty tempted to go check it out also but the fiberglass hull is what is causing me reservations - I kind of like aluminum in an old-probably-been-sitting-outside-in-the-Texas-sun boat. I've read too many horror stories about people buying a cheap boat then only to find out the whole floor structure needed to be ripped out and replaced. Since my boat technically maxes out at 45hp tiller (by the calculations I found online it should be ok with a 50 hp remote but I'm not sure I want to go to a 55hp.

the white boat with the 50 hp Evinrude (presumably a '73 from previous post) is a 1972 16ft VIP Bassmaster last registered in 1998

I think I'm going to pass on them for now - may check back and see if they still have them later this summer. If anyone in the Dallas area comes across this thread I'll pass along the owner info and you can go check them out... but I think I've decided it's more of a project than I want at this point. Just thinking about the things I want it for (auto tilt trim, remote steering and controls seem like they will all be their own little projects even after I might be able to get the motor running. Maybe I'll take a look at them and look into the chrysler more if I pass that way (they're about 1.5 hrs away from me which is why I haven't gone out yet to see in person...)

So far I've been fortunate to get cheap boats with unrunning motors and make shortly have something worth 2x more than I spent after a little time and effort. this one doesn't look a "little" time and effort are going to cut it - more like a whole lot of time and possibly a lot more money to just maybe break even later.

Thank you all for your advice and wisdom... (If I have a really bad impulse day and actually buy it, I'll be back so you can all say, "I told you so!"

 

[Can'tFishEnough]

No Title

Whatever wheeling and dealing is involved to get the motor you want, though, try to avoid having to sell a bare hull -- getting rid of a 30 - 40 yr. old hull you don't want can be almost impossible, in my experience.

I figured the hull would be junk - but yeah, even the boat I had before I posted for sale that I would not sell motor with out boat being sold first or as a combo deal. Turned out someone did want the boat first and I made a little more - but, I understand the whole not buying an old tub without something to push it (unless it's a canoe ) Thanks again.

Some parting pics of "the other boat" for those who were curious

 

[jimmbo]

I know some people swore by Chrysler outboards, most swore at them. The ones I bummed skies behind during my teens seemed to run fine(OMCs were what my families used). Looking at them, the mechanicals were of solid engineering, but they seemed to have a higher incidence of Ignition and carburetor trouble

 

[sutor623]

I know some people swore by Chrysler outboards, most swore at them.

Hahaha, I know thats right!

 

[Can'tFishEnough]

OK, folks, I just wanted to put a quick update here: I did end up skipping these old motor/boat combos and put a want to buy ad on line. I ended up with a good deal for a 1979 55hp Evinrude (titled with good compression and an old set of controls) and didn't have to deal with getting rid of or storing an old boat while trying to salvage the motor. I'll be starting a new link as well and will post the url when I get it done - but I still need advice.

I got the 55hp running somewhat by squirting fuel in the carb throats and cleaning off some terminals and setting up a "tiller handle" type circuit to go to the starter solenoid since the engine harness had been set up with truck/trailer style plugs and the controls have a standard big red plug.

So I think I'll get it titled and go ahead and spend the $ on carb kits and new plugs... but my question is how safe is this to run on a boat that is rated for 45 hp tiller motor. Or should I get this one running and sell it and the 25hp that is on there now and try to get a 40 or 45 tiller handle motor? (may be my eventual route anyway if I can actually find a decent used one).

Do I need to find a way to limit the hp of the motor down some? I'll post all the specs of boat and motor in question in new the new thread.

Thanks.
new thread link. If you wouldn't mind answering there It would be appreciated.

http://forums.iboats.com/forum/boat...t-horse-reduce-horse-power-to-be-within-specs

 

[jakedaawg]

If your boat is a 90's boat the the plate is for a different method of rating hp. You'll be fine.