New explosive!

Xcusme

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HA ha ha !! and you truly believe that's real??
 

Solittle

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I'm gonna switch to a pencil - no more pens for me!
 

Autotech1

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HA ha ha !! and you truly believe that's real??

And you truly believe that its not? What do you know of current explosive and weapons tech?
 

one more cast

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Do a search on Binary Explosives. I don't know if that small amount would really do that much damage but what about a suitcase full?
 

LubeDude

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Xcusme said:
HA ha ha !! and you truly believe that's real??

Oh, It`s real all right! Seems that the shelf life is what keeps it from being used, dry time etc.
 

crunch

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I'd kinda like to hear from Bobvt on this.... seems to me to be a very small amount of explosive for such a big bang... but what do I know? :p
 

DaleT

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The out and outs of the explosive I have no clue. But the video I definitely feel is a fraud. If the binary vaporized the melon then why are there no scorch marks on the post and the tape is still somewhat intact?
 

Bob_VT

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Yes binary explosives are powerful but this video was a fraud ..... my opinion.

I have manufactured MANY binary explosives some with simple mixing and others that require a great deal of time in a lab.

A drop of "nitro" that size or even a piece of C-4 that size would NOT vaporize a melon of that size and as a matter of fact even an apple would survive.

As far as "scorch" marks go.... real high explosives really do not leave any. The explosion is usally a bright orange flash and no smoke to speak of. The video displayed too much smoke.

Now as far as a neat explosive goes..... in Britian the entry teams have a plastic explosive that is in a caulking gun. They run a bead around a door jam, insert a blasting cap .... and it normally opens the door !!
 

DaleT

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Bob, any reason why they don't leave any scorching? To short of a flash time or something?

Obviously I have no expertise in this, just observations and curiosity.
 

Xcusme

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Bob_VT said:
Yes binary explosives are powerful but this video was a fraud ..... my opinion.

A drop of "nitro" that size or even a piece of C-4 that size would NOT vaporize a melon of that size and as a matter of fact even an apple would survive.

...exactly why I laughed......(grin)
 

DHPMARINE

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I thought the precise measuring was good.After getting the air (NOT) out of the syringe,just let some ooze out.That's precise.Don't forget your sticky tape.Put it next to your non-sticky tape.

It's just a poor,slanted film clip.But I am not surprised these explosives exist.

DHP
 

Bob_VT

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I guess the best explanation is that a high explosive does not "burn" ....it detonates. Black Powder is considered a low (very low) explosive due to the fact it does not detonate it deflagrates (actually burns at a high rate).

There is a significant end result between a subtance that deflagrates (which is what happens in fireworks and inside a rifle cartridge) and a true detonation. Even "smokeless" powders have the same reaction of high heat and flame.

I love to listen to the people who have heard about "big" firecrackers that are "equal to a quarter stick of dynomite or equal to a 10th stick of dynomite" Those comparisons are no where near the truth. My favorite demonstation is to detonate a single ounce of high explosive. After the detonation the entire view of explosive properties is evident. It creates a new respect for waht equals what.

A prime example is the bombing done by Mcveigh. Had that entire truck been mixed properly ...... The entire building would have been vaporized ...... not just half.
 
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