New owner 21 ft 74 Starcraft aluminum runabout jet

[heyyou325]

Re: New owner 21 ft 74 Starcraft aluminum runabout jet

I finally got some time to get back on here. We've been hit with a few storms, 30 inches of snow in 2 days on one of the roads I plow. I'm still wanting to get into the boat to decide just what needs done there.
I read where I'm supposed to keep using the same thread so people know what's happened before, so here are a couple more questions. I am planning on getting some gluvit for sealing the seams, will It be better to use it on the inside or outside or both? I am planning on painting over it. Also do I need to do anything special to get it to stick to the aluminum? I seem to remember reading all I have to do is clean it up good, and use vinegar and water to wash the boat just before I put it on. I am also considering painting it on the rivets that are just starting to come loose above the water line to tighten them a bit.
On paint. It was stated here that Rust-oleum works as good as anything else. Is this for below the water line also? The second time I painted my Crestliner I used Rust-oleum and every time I washed it (I usually used simple green and water) the rag would turn blue (the color of the boat). It chipped a little bit, but not real bad. After 3 years of that and the color fading a little, I repainted with NAPA auto paint, which I mistakingly purchased on Craig's list, and didn't notice I got got 3 different types of hardener until after I opened the second can. One type paint and 3 types of hardener, I don't think I used the right hardener. Then I used a finisher over the top. It flaked, and took the old Rust-oleum paint down to the fiberglass paint (I don't remember what type) that I had below it. Also what type of primer do I need with the rust-oleum?
I know I can't do the gluvit, or the paint for a couple month's, actually it gets down below 50 here most nights in August even. I like to plan things in advance, and I don't like last minute surprises although I still get them too often.
I might have to get a new trailer for the boat too as it doesn't have trailer brakes and only one axle. Anything over 1500 lbs is required to have trailer brakes here, and probably in most other states too. I bet the motor alone weighs 800.

 

[Huron Angler]

Re: New owner 21 ft 74 Starcraft aluminum runabout jet

Normally Gluvit is applied to the interior, but it can be used on the exterior hull and will add some protection against beaching the boat.

Your description on how to prep for Gluvit is correct. It has Zinc Chromate in it, so it will adhere to bare aluminum very well. This will work the best if the metal is clean and vinegar works well.

Looks like a great project, good luck and welcome to the Starcraft armada.

 

[Pugetsound]

Re: New owner 21 ft 74 Starcraft aluminum runabout jet

NICE TWO PHOTOS. YOUR GOING TO HAVE TO MUCH FUN WHEN YOU GET THE BOAT READY. tHE 20 POUNDERS MUST BE IN THE BIG LAKE?? GOOD SPOT IS OUT BETWEEN CAMP BAY AND THE CLARKFORK OUTLET. THEN DOWN TO ABOUT KILLROY AND BACK TO CABIN ISLAN AND REPEAT TILL YOU FIND THE FISH. HAVE YOU TRIED ANY OF THE REWAR FOR THE BIG FISH/ ACORDING TO MY BRO. IN LAW WHO IS HATCHERY SUPERTENDENT TILL APRIL 1 THE REWARD HAS BEEN GOOD FOR RESIDENTS AS THEY ARE RIGHT THERE AND BROUGHT IN A LOT OF BOUNTY MONEY. SORRY FOR THE CAPS BUT WAS JUST TO LAZY TO RE DO IT. PUGETSOUND.

 

[heyyou325]

Re: New owner 21 ft 74 Starcraft aluminum runabout jet

I haven't had much luck in the dead sea since the late 70's, maybe early 80's. Caught a fair amount of macs in Priest tho. I know several people who have caught them where you say. I need to learn to troll for them, can't seem to get my Crestliner to stay over them to jig. That's the way the people I know have the best luck. I know a few who claim they average $200 to $300 a week jigging. Used to catch a lot of big rainbows and char (Bull Trout) around the islands. Used to be good Kam fishing on either side of Green Bay. A couple years after they planted the Chinook ( I think) Salmon anyway in Cocolalla you could catch fair size ones in the river between Morton and Laclede. With gas prices like they are predicting, I'm apt to fish that lake a lot this year. Haven't been on it in about 4, or maybe five years, and I'm less than 5 miles from it.

 

[Pugetsound]

Re: New owner 21 ft 74 Starcraft aluminum runabout jet

WE realy miss the kokanee for several years now. Brother in-law said be patient as they have caught and netted a lot of the preditor ( Big Trout ) and the count is moveing up. We used to as you prop. know had a 50 fish limit, mooch and catch that many any day you fished. We generally trolled with a ford fender,leaded line ,half moon sinker, a wedding ring. Used to use the red and black flys years ago. Yes the fishing every where is going down the tube. Trying to settle with mas builders and logging and Native americans has been a loosing battle. Hope to see you on the lake this comeing summer. Sure wont be able to miss your boat if your there. Tight lines and look for the big ones Ed pugetsound.

 

[heyyou325]

Re: New owner 21 ft 74 Starcraft aluminum runabout jet

Thought I'd submit a pic of what most of us are waiting for. I've been getting enough kokanee, but I've been going to Montana. They are small, probably averaging 9 to 10", but last summer I brought back over 800 in 7 trips (3 were with the wife, so we could double the limit of 100 in possession) and they quit biting the end of July. The fish overpopulated and Montana fish and game are trying to get them fished down so there will be some size to them. I feel this is what happened in Pend Oreille when they took the commercial fishing off in the early 70's. I've seen pictures of thousands of 14" to 18" spawning in Granite Creek last fall tho, so they are coming back. Pugetsound do you know where this pic was taken in the 70's?

 

[heyyou325]

Re: New owner 21 ft 74 Starcraft aluminum runabout jet

Well I finally got enough snow moved so I could move the boat close enough to get an extension cord to it so I can start working on it. Now I only have to find time, energy, and money.

 

[heyyou325]

Re: New owner 21 ft 74 Starcraft aluminum runabout jet

I'm officially over my head now. The front interior used to look like . In the middle of the evening, like . And when I finally came up to eat . I'm not sure if I should say unfortunately, but the guy who sold it to me told me it had a double hull, and it does on bottom. I can't straighten the dents out by pounding them, nor can I tighten the rivets. Worst dents are indented 3/4", and nothing on the inside at all, so there must be ribs in between. I think. I'm stuck now getting the side pieces with the upholstery on off so I can take up the next piece of decking. But I'll probably figure something out. Everything looks good inside so far except where the eye bolt that holds it on the trailer is. The wood inside is pretty rotten. My other boat doesn't have a wood block there so I guess this one doesn't need one either, just some bent washers, and silicon to separate it from the aluminum. Will try to get back to it tomorrow night, but can't the rest of the week.

 

[barato2]

Re: New owner 21 ft 74 Starcraft aluminum runabout jet

sounds like you have a few options on the dents: drill holes and pull dents with slide hammer, then TIG em closed (lots of work, and lots of $ if you don't have a TIG welder or at least an aluminum-capable MIG); use a stud welder to weld studs onto outside so you can pull (don't know if there's a gas-shielded stud welder that will work on alum though); or just leave em as is and paint it white so they don't show too much.

i'd do #3, esp if you plan on using it as a river boat.

on the bow eye, i'd go ahead and replace the wood block rather than just using washers. those bent washers will be all that's keeping your 21' boat on the trailer. and although i do hear that Starcrafts fare reasonably well in high speed getoffs on dirt, they might not do so good on pavement.

 

[djpeters]

Re: New owner 21 ft 74 Starcraft aluminum runabout jet

Nice cheap shot at Kev there barato....

 

[barato2]

Re: New owner 21 ft 74 Starcraft aluminum runabout jet

now i wasn't mentioning any names....but i do appreciate anyone who's done testing to determine how well my hull will hold up to being beached.

 

[Pugetsound]

Re: New owner 21 ft 74 Starcraft aluminum runabout jet

LOL you play -- you pay . Good weather to all. We all need it.

 

[Pugetsound]

Re: New owner 21 ft 74 Starcraft aluminum runabout jet

Looks a lot like some photos off shore from Camp Bay the point on
in the right looks like the south exit to the main lake there is a old mine on the point that looks interesting but to chicken to have ever gone in there. The front hills is the Green Monarcs I think.

View attachment 84778 Thought I'd submit a pic of what most of us are waiting for. I've been getting enough kokanee, but I've been going to Montana. They are small, probably averaging 9 to 10", but last summer I brought back over 800 in 7 trips (3 were with the wife, so we could double the limit of 100 in possession) and they quit biting the end of July. The fish overpopulated and Montana fish and game are trying to get them fished down so there will be some size to them. I feel this is what happened in Pend Oreille when they took the commercial fishing off in the early 70's. I've seen pictures of thousands of 14" to 18" spawning in Granite Creek last fall tho, so they are coming back. Pugetsound do you know where this pic was taken in the 70's?

 

[heyyou325]

Re: New owner 21 ft 74 Starcraft aluminum runabout jet

That pic was of the monarchs alright, but was taken above Hope. Here's one just south of Camp Bay, and my old Crestliner, before the top. That's where I used to go play all the time. Used to be good kam fishing in the 60's right here and the whole way back to Green Bay.
Work started ok this week on the boat, but sure slowed down. I got the second piece of deck unriveted, but can't get it up without taking out the side panel. Discovered I can't take it out without pulling the homemade engine compartment. I still have enough ice from the storms right after I got it, and before I got tarps on it, that I can't get the plywood behind the engine loose. Supposed to get in the 40's here Saturday with snow in the AM and rain after. First 2 pieces of plywood decking were rock solid. The third has a couple small areas where it is getting soft, but I haven't been able to get it out yet. I'm not sure I can get the fourth one up without pulling the motor. Or fifth. What have I got into. I will buy new plywood for the third piece, and epoxy all of it. After reading more threads, I'm considering making it an open bow, but not sure when, or even if yet.

 

[CheapboatKev]

Re: New owner 21 ft 74 Starcraft aluminum runabout jet

now i wasn't mentioning any names....but i do appreciate anyone who's done testing to determine how well my hull will hold up to being beached.

Anything for my beloved brothers in tin

 

[Pugetsound]

Re: New owner 21 ft 74 Starcraft aluminum runabout jet

Hey- you you ought to run down to lewisto and visit the factory with your ? In sure th Weldcraft or Duckworth people prob. installed the jet. Be a nice ride if f you dont take the old highway down.

 

[heyyou325]

Re: New owner 21 ft 74 Starcraft aluminum runabout jet

Can't afford the gas. Been trying to fix up a boat. If I could just remember the name of the place, I should have written it down, I would go on line. A buddy found out the eliminator jets were made there. It's the big marina where they have all the commercial jet boats going into Hell's Canyon, I should look it up and contact them for info on the Jet.

 

[Pugetsound]

Re: New owner 21 ft 74 Starcraft aluminum runabout jet

Could it have been =====Hell Canyon Marine??--- there large and a lot of boats leave there for tours and fishing.

 

[Pugetsound]

Re: New owner 21 ft 74 Starcraft aluminum runabout jet

Was that the area they call the white rock or the beach area on the way to Garfield bay. That newer Marina there is struggeling since it was openrd . The lack of Kokinie (spelling??) fishing took away most of there business.

 

[heyyou325]

Re: New owner 21 ft 74 Starcraft aluminum runabout jet

If you're meaning the pic by Camp Bay. It's just right around the point to the south, and a little west I guess from Camp Bay. There is or was a big rock, just up the bank, looking like it would fall over at any minute, but it never did. Used to take the family there all the time. The other one is up W Spring Creek in Hope. Terrible road year round. Big fancy house right where that pic was taken. If I remember correctly. Always really liked that pic of the lake. Haven't been to the marina in Garfield in years. Not even sure who owns it now. Tried getting an outboard there about 4 or 5 years ago for my Crestliner and they didn't want to sell for anything that old, and their oldest outboard was maybe 10 yrs old. They told me not to waste my time with anything older. Used to be owned by the same people that had the Captains Table, but they split up and she ended up loosing the liquor license in another bar. Then he sold the marina, or she did or somethin. Never did really know.
Supposed to be dry in the morning so I'll probably get the wife mad at me again. Supposed to go get some building supplies for the house in the am. But instead I have a sandblaster borrowed and intend to work on the boat. When it starts raining I can go get the stuff to rebuild my stairway into the house.
Oh I just did some checking and it was River View Marina that did the engine work, and the guy I bought it from thought installed the eliminator jet pump. I e-mailed them for some info, if the have any.