new prop help

poor boater

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i currently have a 98 maxum 21' that has a 48834852a4518p prop. it has a 5.0L carb motor and just seems to be spinning to wot and not plaining well and top speed of about 35 mph wich seems low to me for motor size to boat size. this is my first boat so I may just have to accept it is what it is any help would be appreciated
 

craze1cars

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Re: new prop help

That is likely the correct range for your motor...your target. However Bondo is asking what is YOUR boat's current WOT RPM while you are running at your top speed? Presumably it is not within that range...but we need to know where it is.

Ideally, in addition to the info you have provided so far, we also need to know:

1. Your exact RPM at WOT full speed
2. Your exact speed at WOT full speed, fully trimmed out (GPS figure is preferred, but we can use your 35 if you are confident that is quite accurate)
3. Your gear ratio (serial number of your outdrive can help us find this for you if you don't know)

There are calculators we use to help determine if your problem is actually in the prop, or possibly elsewhere. We need those data points to run the calculations. Otherwise we're just guessing, and not very accurately...

I agree you have some type of problem. If your motor in your 1998 boat is original, it is most likely a Vortec 5.0L 2bbl carb, rated at 220 hp...in a 21 foot runabout that setup should be able to easily run near 50 mph....and with an 18 pitch prop it should leap out of the hole like your pants-on-fire, and probably over-rev at top speed...but that all depends on your current gear ratio. And if this is a heavier cuddy instead of a runabout, it might be a little bit slower...but certainly it should be much faster than 35 mph in any configuration...

What kind of boat is this exactly? It would be also nice to know whether this a Mercruiser or Volvo?

Share a bit more data and we can help you troubleshoot.
 

poor boater

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Re: new prop help

wow, the motor still had more throttle I stopped at 5000, didn't feel comfortable on the fist trip out running long higher than that but still had more throttle. the out drive serial is 0L13597. It is a maxum 2100 sr2 it has a merc in it serial number 0L056801, I think the ratio is 1.81 thats on the side of the out drive, the boat was a gift from my uncle and had sat for thee years in storage. I have changed all fluids and impellar and rebuilt carb think the carb may need more adjustment, but want to go to lake lower in elevation first. This was first trip out after changing fluids and service. I think I may still have some adjustments to make on boat as on this trip starboard manifold got hot enough to start melting rubber boots, and after removing it it will need to be replaced.

Thanks for all the help next time I take it out I will have some things to record.
 

craze1cars

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Re: new prop help

OK, with more info I think I am now beginning to see nuggets what your problem may be...

You are very much underpropped. However your initial comment that it is difficult for you to get on plane really throws me off. Boats that are underpropped are VERY fast and easy to get on plane, but their engines over-rev and they have low top speeds.

And now you've made an elevation comment, which opens up a whole extra can of worms as well and we need to know yet more data: What altitude are you at, and what altitude do you plan to normally use this boat at? FWIW, taking this boat to a lower altitude will make it REALLY rev up high if it is revving too high now...

You are correct in fearing going much past 5,000 rpm. Don't do it.

You indeed have a 1998 5.0L 220 HP 2bbl Vortec motor, rated for 4,400 to 4,800.

1.81 sounds to me like a rather low drive ratio for that motor in that boat. And an 18 pitch is a rather low pitch for that motor. As a combo it sounds as though it is geared and propped very low overall. There is a good chance this is because it was set up to run at very high altitudes where it is choked for air and therefore making much less HP? Maybe because it is a "frankenboat" that has had outdrive repaced by someone who didn't really know what he was doing and put on the wrong ratio? I have no idea....

Is there any way you can get a larger pitched prop to borrow, and try to run it and see if your RPMS stay at or below 5,000? Maybe a 21 or 23 prop....especially if you're going to run it at lower altitudes....

We really do need a full speed, WOT run, and all the data from it, from a known prop, to get a good snapshot of how to properly prop this boat. But do NOT risk spinning it past about 5,200 to 5,300 RPM for any length of time. A short run at those speeds to collect data is OK, but no faster than that...I don't want you to damage anything. If such engine speed happens, you need to back out of it, get a larger pitch prop, and try again.

Keep in mind also, if this boat is set at altitude the carb may have been rejetted for the same. If so, it will have smaller jets installed. When you had it apart to rebuild the carb, did you note the jet size? Because if you run the smaller high altitude jets at low altitude, you will run the risk of running the motor too lean...which also may not be a good thing and could damage the motor. I suggest you check the jetting of this carburator with factory specs if you think it may be set up for altitude...before running it at lower elevations.
 
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