Non skid replacing carpet and more ? ?

[Baylinercapri1987]

Well, Today me and my friend Brian started the floor work on the bayliner. We are putting down Non-Skid for the floor, installing a pedestal helm seat, and fiberglassing+bondoing and reinforcing everything nasty looking.

Any ideas on a semi cheap non skid paint??

Or any other pointers?

 

[erikgreen]

Re: Non skid replacing carpet and more ? ?

Make sure if you find actual rot, as opposed to wet, that you remove it. It won't dry on its own.

For non skid, people have recommended rhino-liner or similar truck bed liners as good. If you want to go even cheaper, try paint with some clean sand added in. Or you could add a non-skid compound.

I believe rust-oleum has an inexpensive marine primer/paint/nonskid combo that comes in a few colors. I saw some at Menards the other day.

You'll want to look for a good way to reinforce your deck under the pedestal seat.. it puts a lot of force on the deck. Also be aware that you're not supposed to use a lot of those pedestals above a certain speed.

Erik

 

[Baylinercapri1987]

Re: Non skid replacing carpet and more ? ?

No rot at all I can see, pics are after pressure washing so thats why its darkish looking. Will look into the rust-oleum route, but I wanted it like the sportfishing boats. The pedestal is only 4 in. or so tall, very small post. How would you go about reinforcing it to the starboard helm box you see in the pic?

 

[iwombat]

Re: Non skid replacing carpet and more ? ?

Interlux makes both a non-skid paint and a non-skid additive for other paints. I'd recommend either one.

 

[Baylinercapri1987]

Re: Non skid replacing carpet and more ? ?

Update.....

Here are some new pics from today. We built on the box with 2 sheets of plywood resined together and screwed down 1 by one, finished with fiberglass mat over top all resined... I think its strong enough now. We also worked more on the hull, sanding and filling with bondo-glass. Here are some pics........

 

[SgtMaj]

Re: Non skid replacing carpet and more ? ?

Interlux makes both a non-skid paint and a non-skid additive for other paints. I'd recommend either one.

Baylinercapri1987 could probably also use the generic non-skid additive sold in home depot or Lowes stores. I think it's basically the same (Tiny silica beads) no matter where you get it or how much you pay. I would make sure the paint was a good topside paint though, as that area will get a fair bit of use and weathering.

 

[Baylinercapri1987]

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Nice, I will check that stuff out..... So go with a marine epoxy paint? Is there any cheap epoxy paint that will work good? Any other suggestions on what to lay down on the deck?

 

[SgtMaj]

Re: Non skid replacing carpet and more ? ?

Nice, I will check that stuff out..... So go with a marine epoxy paint? Is there any cheap epoxy paint that will work good? Any other suggestions on what to lay down on the deck?

Look for high-quality first, then look for a good deal on it. There are plenty of good deals to be had online, and this is something that you probably don't want to do again for a few more years, so do it with the good stuff. I would actually recommend the interlux non-skid paint for this, as it is specifically designed for these applications and is as good a brand/product as you can get. I spent about 2 minutes googling it and found Interlux Interdeck Non- Skid Paint for $35/quart... you might be able to find it as cheap as $25. It doesn't look like the area is that large, so 1 quart might be enough (best to get 2 just in case though).

The extra $5-10 you spend on it, knowing you won't have to re-do it in 2 years, will be well worth it.

 

[Baylinercapri1987]

Re: Non skid replacing carpet and more ? ?

Yea, the interlux non-skid paint looks good, What should the primer be under that?

 

[SgtMaj]

Re: Non skid replacing carpet and more ? ?

Yea, the interlux non-skid paint looks good, What should the primer be under that?

Interlux Pre-Kote Primer

I think that's available here on iboats, too.

 

[Lou C]

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Are you going to sand that floor down and coat with epoxy first? Keep in mind that you can't assume that any coating you put on, may not be totally waterproof. I would buy the best, you don't want something that won't hold up, or peels that would create a real mess!

 

[Baylinercapri1987]

Re: Non skid replacing carpet and more ? ?

Yea, I was going to sand more and use some resin/bondo before the primer.

 

[Baylinercapri1987]

Re: Non skid replacing carpet and more ? ?

Went with this blue non skid, will post back with results!!

http://shop.nonskidpaint.com/product.sc?categoryId=2&productId=3[/url

 

[reelfishin]

Re: Non skid replacing carpet and more ? ?

......You'll want to look for a good way to reinforce your deck under the pedestal seat.. it puts a lot of force on the deck. Also be aware that you're not supposed to use a lot of those pedestals above a certain speed.

Erik

The problem with a lot of seat pedestals is that they don't have a base or top section that can take the pounding at higher speeds, especially with a larger passenger. I've had several collapse over the years. I weigh in at 275lbs, and none of my boats do much more than about 45mph, and I've had just about all the major brand pedestals fail in some way or another. I've even had two or three Pompano upper swivel sections punch through at the top on rough water. The problem is that they use plain cast aluminum, and its not often very heavy duty. The upright is rarely a problem, and I've only had one snap at the base. The first one that failed was a fully adjustable swivel top on a fairly expensive seat and pedestal, it gave way in rough water landing me on the floor backwards. The fall wasn't that bad, but the worst part was getting back through the breakers without a seat while trying not to get impaled on the remaining post as I drove kneeling and leaning on the gunwale and trying to stay in position to maintain control of the boat and both engines.
I ended up building a wooden box and mounting a fixed seat right too it. I wasn't going through that again. It wasn't a speed boat and I wasn't going fast, the inlet was just rough and the boat was getting tossed about a bit.

The worst pedestals are the narrow steel 'Bass boat' type, they put the most strain on the deck and have very little support in rough seas.

 

[Baylinercapri1987]

Re: Non skid replacing carpet and more ? ?

Thanks for the info, here is the seat and pedestal I am using ..........

 

[Baylinercapri1987]

Re: Non skid replacing carpet and more ? ?

New pics of sanded and resined deck and more.............

 

[BOYS & TOYS]

Re: Non skid replacing carpet and more ? ?

i was thinking of gelcoat then silica sand #00 and another light coat of gel on my floor i plan to mostly fish in her so easy clean is a must
the gelcoat should last long time?
any ideas? is gelcoat to thick?
was thinking about thining and spraying
BOYS&TOYS

 

[ondarvr]

Re: Non skid replacing carpet and more ? ?

I hate to say it, but if all you did was resin coat the wood you're only part way there. Resin coating really won't do much and will typically fail in about a year, maybe less. You'll need to add some glass to it for it to hold up, otherwise it will crack and start to peel after it's been in the weather for a while.

 

[tashasdaddy]

Re: Non skid replacing carpet and more ? ?

very true.

 

[Baylinercapri1987]

Re: Non skid replacing carpet and more ? ?

I have a gallon of non skid blue to go on top of the resin, the wood really soaked it in, it actually needed it. So should I throw a marine primer before the non skid to help?, the non skid is said to be self-priming. I can lay down a couple sheets of glass in the wear points, good idea.