noob who needs help

[greatestfisherman]

Re: noob who needs help

yes... the boat has a full transom with an outboard motor... its a 1990 proline with original 1990 omc motor that came with the boat... motor was rebuilt according to seller 2006 - 07.... asking for $3000....

 

[Ocean Airbrush]

Re: noob who needs help

Just some advice,
As you are obviously unfamiliar with boats, once you have settled on a boat you like, spend the money and have a marine surveyor check it out for you. It would be a cheap insurance policy against making a potential multi-thousand dollar mistake. Used boats can harbor a million hidden costs that could easily turn a great deal into a lost cause.
Case in point:
I recently purchased a 1985 Grady White tournament 19 for $1700.00.
So far I have replaced risers, manifolds, thermostat housing, belts, rebuilt one of the motor mounts, replaced the lower shift cable, rewired and replaced all guages as well as added new brakes to the trailer.
To date my $1700 dollar boat has cost me 4500 dollars and I expect to invest another $1500 at least. I was not unprepared for the project and have no regrets about it but I also inspected the boat carefully and upon that inspection I had found approximately half these problems. Many of the issues were unseen and could not be determined until I had to put a few hours on the boat to find the problems and all of the repairs I made could not be procrastinated due to safety issues. granted, a lot of the issues were simply routine maintenance to ensure the boat would take me out and get me back home but then again no matter what boat I would have bought I would have taken it straight to the mechanic to have all of the maintenance done. Personally, my advice is this, get a survey, if not a survey, keep a 5K fund available (over and beyond the cost of the boat) to repair all of the problems you are going to run into. Be sure to factor this into the overall value of the boat when you purchase.

 

[Home Cookin']

Re: noob who needs help

Here's the disconnect I see: you want this for commercial use? in that case, you want a solid hull and you will be replacing the motor soon. The Sea Ox is great for that (but it was overpriced due to the motor). If you get an old hull may as welll get it with a blown motor than get stuck out there with a box full of fish or a net half out.
Can you do your own engine work, and do it quickly? It might take a recreational boater a couple of weeks in the summer to get a motor repaired; a commercial guy can't afford that (nor can the crabs in the traps and fish in the nets). Buy a hull; buy a new or almost new motor, or two identical used ones and an engine crane.

Your shopping strategy should be nothing like the recreational guy. I would tell them to focus on the motor. You have a lot to absorb if you are starting off new both to boats and to fishing. Although Forrest Gump did OK.

 

[greatestfisherman]

Re: noob who needs help

hi all, after careful observation and research... i decided to go with the 1989 proline with the v4 1994 johnson motor. I manage to talk the seller to drop down his price to 3grand. Trailer is almost new and the hull and motor is in great condition. The seller has all paper work including maintenance work from the mariner. Boat was just winterize not to long ago so unfortunately, I did not get a chance to start it up. But from what all the paper works says, it runs great and all maintenace and tune up has been done prior to winterize. thanks for everyone's advice...

 

[pmillar]

Re: noob who needs help

Congratulations on the purchase of your boat. If the valuation assumed a running, in good condition engine I wish you the best of luck as that's a pretty large leap of faith - records or no. There seems to be plenty of parts and knowledge available for that engine though which is a good thing.

 

[Bucks45]

Re: noob who needs help

Congrats! Lets see some pics!

 

[Gary H NC]

Re: noob who needs help

The only winterizing they could have done on that motor is some fuel treatment and possibly fogged the cylinders.
I would sure give it a test run.

Before putting this boat into service i would have the impeller changed,compression test and the gear oil changed in the lower.

 

[greatestfisherman]

Re: noob who needs help

here are the pics of the int (pics are from the time i purchase boat... checking floorboards and transom)... I will get more pics when i can but at the moment the boat is shrink wrapped... I would test run in but all the ponds next to my house are frozen...also new england was just hit by a big snow storm.... almost 2ft of snow...



http://i472.photobucket.com/albums/rr88/xx2nicexx/DSCN2422.jpg
http://i472.photobucket.com/albums/rr88/xx2nicexx/DSCN2421.jpg
http://i472.photobucket.com/albums/rr88/xx2nicexx/DSCN2420.jpg
http://i472.photobucket.com/albums/rr88/xx2nicexx/DSCN2419.jpg

the phot below is the same hull as mine... (just to give everyone and idea of how it looks)
http://i472.photobucket.com/albums/rr88/xx2nicexx/95812224_1thumb_550x410.jpg

 

[greatestfisherman]

Re: noob who needs help

quick question... the seller cannot find the title for the boat however he has both registrations... one for boat and one for trailer... also he signed a bill of sale to me to state that the boat was sold to me and im am now the owner... my question is can I use the registration to get a new title and registration?

 

[NYBo]

Re: noob who needs help

quick question... the seller cannot find the title for the boat however he has both registrations... one for boat and one for trailer... also he signed a bill of sale to me to state that the boat was sold to me and im am now the owner... my question is can I use the registration to get a new title and registration?

Check with the titling agency in your state for the procedure. Probably a notarized form or two, most likely.

 

[jay_merrill]

Re: noob who needs help

Depending on the laws of the state that you live in, there may not be a title for the boat. There should be a title for the trailer. Buying anything that requires a title without one, is a gamble. If you can make the purchase contingent upon successful registration of both the boat and the trailer, plus receipt of a valid title for whatever needs one, I would do that.



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[Bucks45]

Re: noob who needs help

Depending on the laws of the state that you live in, there may not be a title for the boat. There should be a title for the trailer. Buying anything that requires a title without one, is a gamble. If you can make the purchase contingent upon successful registration of both the boat and the trailer, plus receipt of a valid title for whatever needs one, I would do that.



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My state is just the opposite. There is only a bill of sale for the trailer, but a title for the boat. If he has ever had either titled in his name he can go to the local title office and get a copy. I just did it for a truck and it cost me $16. If he can't/won't do that, I would be a little skeptical.

 

[greatestfisherman]

Re: noob who needs help

im hearing lots of bad things about proline and of course some good things.... how are this brand rated in the boating world? How are they compare to wellcraft, mako, aquasport, etc... I need reviews and or feedback for reassurance... getting mixed feelings on the brand/manufacture of the boat.

 

[ezmobee]

Re: noob who needs help

Brand matters little on a used boat, especially one as old as your. I'd rather have a well maintained Trophy from the 80's than a neglected Grady White!

 

[greatestfisherman]

Re: noob who needs help

hey guys, great news.... just sold my proline and made a $500 profit and im about to buy a bigger and better boat... 19ft 1982 grady white with a 1994 yahama + galvanized trailer and hull in solid condition.... also, boat has been maintain by shop... see below link....already spoke with the seller and an agreement is met... I schedule to see the boat in a week... im just wondering what you guys think of the soon to be purchase boat... thanks in advance...


http://capecod.craigslist.org/boa/1536878756.html

 

[Jeep Man]

Re: noob who needs help

hey guys, great news.... just sold my proline and made a $500 profit and im about to buy a bigger and better boat... 19ft 1982 grady white with a 1994 yahama + galvanized trailer and hull in solid condition.... also, boat has been maintain by shop... see below link....already spoke with the seller and an agreement is met... I schedule to see the boat in a week... im just wondering what you guys think of the soon to be purchase boat... thanks in advance...


http://capecod.craigslist.org/boa/1536878756.html

Sounds like a good move. A bigger boat and solid motor. While the V4 Jonnies were very reliable, I've heard the downside was that they were loved to drink lots of gas.

 

[greatestfisherman]

Re: noob who needs help

yeah... i think its a good move too... well mainly i will use the boat for fishing so a dual console 19ft grady white tournament is just the boat im looking for... spacious and open bow for easy ankor lifting.... also im going to take all the seats out except for the captain's seat to make more room for fishing... cant wait for this year's striper season..... so far my record is a 55inch... this year im hoping to break into the 60+ inch striper... always setting a goal to the next level cause fishing, you just never know what monsters are lurking around in the deep water of northeastern... oh also, my uncle caught a 200lb halibut off the cape.... those are rare here... i didnt even think they came down that low from up north...

 

[greatestfisherman]

Re: noob who needs help

update... I haven't posted in a while so i thought i update you guys a little on things with my grady... sorry no pics yet... will do when boat is ready which is soon...


its been a entire winter now and finally did some work on the boat...
so far, i rebuilt the carb and change the plugs, flush the oil from the lower unit and container... (2stroke carb yamaha) and the engines runs strong... I had to do a little adjusting of the air fuel adjust screw on the carb which I did not want to touch but had to.... now it idles perfectly and runs strong... I had to fix the floor board that covers the gas tank due to soft spots... now everything for the boat is in perfect working order... however, the trailer is another story... its a cox super loader with two u brace which tilts as it takes on the weight of the boat and pushes up its rollers to support the boat. All the clamps and screws are rusted, wobble roller are hard and cracked... So far I only had the chance to change the wobble rollers and the cable which snapped on me during my first test launch in spring... I still need to replace the bolts and clamps and adjust the roller arms so that it lies off the strakes...