treedancer
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Re: Novak Outs Rove ... Update
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Those you mention may very well be in the center of the alledged deciet, or it could be one or more of the many institutional hold-overs from the Clinton admin. God knows the hallowed halls of governemt are choked with them.
Plame herself is only one of them. Who knows? I am still waiting for something of substance on ANY of the myriad allegations we are treated to on all fronts by our friends in the press.
Not a member of the press but I will be glad to try to open as many eyes as I can on this subject of outing a covert op.
Former CIA officialLarry C Johnson, who left the CIA in 1989, indicated Plame had been a "non-official cover operative" (NOC). He explained: "...that meant she agreed to operate overseas without the protection of a diplomatic passport. If caught in that status she would have been executed." Later, he wrote that "The law actually requires that a covered person 'served' overseas in the last five years. Served does not mean lived. In the case of Valerie Wilson, energy consultant for Brewster-Jennings, she traveled overseas in 2003, 2002, and 2001, as part of her cover job. She met with folks who worked in the nuclear industry, cultivated sources, and managed spies. She was a national security asset until, supposedly, being exposed by Karl Rove and Scooter Libby.
I can here the paranoid shouts, but that Johnson most likely is another Clinton holdover, not quite. Check this out.
Johnson said that he believes a letter of recommendation from Republican Senator Orrin Hatch (R-UT) helped open doors for him at the CIA. He left the CIA after working there for four years in 1989. A registered republican who supported President Bush in 2000, Johnson has since broken ranks with Republicans over the scandal surrounding the outing of CIA operative Valerie Plame Wilson.
With the Bush apologist on this forum, does anyone of them wonder what this is doing to the moral in the CIA? I wonder what his father George the first, he a former leader of the agency thinks when all the evidence is pointing to his own sons administrations so-called advisers, for pointing out a covert agent.
A little more to peek at when you have time.
But within the C.I.A., the exposure of Ms. Plame is now considered an even greater instance of treachery. Ms. Plame, a specialist in non-conventional weapons who worked overseas, had "nonofficial cover," and was what in C.I.A. parlance is called a NOC, the most difficult kind of false identity for the agency to create. While most undercover agency officers disguise their real profession by pretending to be American embassy diplomats or other United States government employees, Ms. Plame passed herself off as a private energy expert. Intelligence experts said that NOCs have especially dangerous jobs
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Those you mention may very well be in the center of the alledged deciet, or it could be one or more of the many institutional hold-overs from the Clinton admin. God knows the hallowed halls of governemt are choked with them.
Plame herself is only one of them. Who knows? I am still waiting for something of substance on ANY of the myriad allegations we are treated to on all fronts by our friends in the press.
Not a member of the press but I will be glad to try to open as many eyes as I can on this subject of outing a covert op.
Former CIA officialLarry C Johnson, who left the CIA in 1989, indicated Plame had been a "non-official cover operative" (NOC). He explained: "...that meant she agreed to operate overseas without the protection of a diplomatic passport. If caught in that status she would have been executed." Later, he wrote that "The law actually requires that a covered person 'served' overseas in the last five years. Served does not mean lived. In the case of Valerie Wilson, energy consultant for Brewster-Jennings, she traveled overseas in 2003, 2002, and 2001, as part of her cover job. She met with folks who worked in the nuclear industry, cultivated sources, and managed spies. She was a national security asset until, supposedly, being exposed by Karl Rove and Scooter Libby.
I can here the paranoid shouts, but that Johnson most likely is another Clinton holdover, not quite. Check this out.
Johnson said that he believes a letter of recommendation from Republican Senator Orrin Hatch (R-UT) helped open doors for him at the CIA. He left the CIA after working there for four years in 1989. A registered republican who supported President Bush in 2000, Johnson has since broken ranks with Republicans over the scandal surrounding the outing of CIA operative Valerie Plame Wilson.
With the Bush apologist on this forum, does anyone of them wonder what this is doing to the moral in the CIA? I wonder what his father George the first, he a former leader of the agency thinks when all the evidence is pointing to his own sons administrations so-called advisers, for pointing out a covert agent.
A little more to peek at when you have time.
But within the C.I.A., the exposure of Ms. Plame is now considered an even greater instance of treachery. Ms. Plame, a specialist in non-conventional weapons who worked overseas, had "nonofficial cover," and was what in C.I.A. parlance is called a NOC, the most difficult kind of false identity for the agency to create. While most undercover agency officers disguise their real profession by pretending to be American embassy diplomats or other United States government employees, Ms. Plame passed herself off as a private energy expert. Intelligence experts said that NOCs have especially dangerous jobs
