NY Times, All the news that assists Al Qaeda.

[oddjob]

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Heres a derailment......

I think people who support terror should assume room temperature and I will help them when I can. I also feel the same for people(voters) who woulde argue over the color of black and white.

 

[CJY]

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I am on record as stating I am not in disagreement with you oj. I guess we differ in terms of how the priorities have been set by this administration in regard to fighting terror. My point was not to rehash the removal of Hussein from power. Rather, it was my opinion of this administration's prioritizing terrorist fighting.

It was also announced that the CIA has ended its OBL unit. Explain that one to me please. They have stated this should aid in finding him......WHAT?? Again, a poor attempt at prioritizing.

The terror fighting priorities are so screwed up, it's not funny.

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/13699308/

 

[rottenray6402]

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The OBL unit was in place for 10 years! If they couldn't find him in 10 years then how long should we let them try? Also wasn't 10 years ago 1996? Five years before 9/11? They must have been doing a bang up job to have completely missed 9/11. What most people don't realize is that there are intelligence reports that are not published (thank God) and what may look odd to an observer with out all of the info may make sense. One of the troubleing things is that the main stream press and the Dems are so intent on making W look bad every chance they get he can't turn around with out someone finding fault with him. I don't agree with W on everything he does but I don't think anyone could have done any better with all that has happened since 2000.

 

[Kwas]

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Why hasn't the President be able to keep the promises he made? because the liberals block everything that he tries to do. They shot down SS reform, only agreed to a watered down energy bill, blocked drilling for oil in ANWR. Nothing has changed in Iraq to warrant reducing forces there? It would be a good idea if you liberals stop reading the left wing press and watching the left wing electronic media. Did the liberal press tell you that Iraq now has a government? The Iraq military is getting stronger every day as is the the police, I guess the NY Times didn't tell you that. Other countries are reducing their forces because Iraq is becoming stronger. You liberals have been screaming to brings troops home and now your griping about it. Typical left wing radical BS. Tell us what the left wing has done to support anything the President has done. Cape Coral, Florida

 

[CJY]

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rottenray,

We should let them try until the job is finished. Why should we stop any sooner? It just makes no sense to end a unit meant to find the most wanted person in the world before finding and killing him.

I don't know if anybody could have done better, but I am confident when I say, nobody could have done worse.

Kwas,

Democrats cannot stop anything the republicans do without some republican flipfloppers. I guess W cannot even get his own party on board with his crazy ideas. Rather than blame the democrats, blame W's only party for not supporting him. They are the ones that have turned, you knew the democrats position.

It's not the presses fault that it is so simple to find fault with W. One just needs to watch or listen to him for a minute.There you go blaiming the messenger for something they have no control of.

By the way, where do you get your news from Kwas? You must get it directly from the horses mouth as do I. I don't believe what the press says just because they print it. However, when they have footage of W making statements or lack of action in support of what they print, it is tough to deny it.

What proof do you have the Iraq military and police is becoming stronger, particularly strong enough to defend themselves? My proof for their lack of strength is the ongoing violence in Iraq. You know, that country W declared victory over several times now.

 

[Blackgang]

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OBL checking out peacefully of natural causes is an unacceptable outcome. I hope this is a mis-direct.8)

 

[Kwas]

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CIY

So your saying that the minority party isn't responsable for anything, their just there for the ride? .
Cape Coral, Florida
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Democrats are the Terrorists best friends!

 

[CJY]

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Nope, that is not what I said. Although with W constantly doing his own thing, we are all kind of along only for the ride.

You said the democrats road block anything he tries. My point was that the democrats alone cannot stop W from doing anything he and the republican congress want to do.

Bottom line, W has accomplished as much as he has tried to. Did I not read somewhere that W has taken more vacation time than any other President in the history of the US? I would ask him, but he is probably playing golf or fishing somewhere.d

 

[12Footer]

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I am really surprised nobody has concern for the point PW2 has brought up. The info was leaked to the times by somebody "in the know."

My concern is the reason for the leak, or the fact that more intelligence has again been given out. Unbelievable that the press is being blamed for this story. Treason??? I agree, but for the person that told the times of this, not the messenger. .

I see absolutely no difference between the leaker and it's willing accomplices at the alNew York Times. To me, they are equal agents of the enemy. And as traitors, should be placed side-by-side before a firing squad.


From SW Florida, A proud member of iboats since March 25,2001
The old me

 

[txswinner]

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Careful what you ask for their 12 ft. You might hit Rove or do you include the VP who told the messager to leak the information.\

Newspaper telling story is not treason. Read the Constitution. You may not take away my rights any more than you should let anyone take your guns out of your bloody dead hand.

 

[12Footer]

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Careful what you ask for their 12 ft. You might hit Rove or do you include the VP who told the messager to leak the information.\

Neither has didly to do with treason, but the media sources who pump this sort of caustic bilge into your bloodstream do.

Newspaper telling story is not treason. Read the Constitution. You may not take away my rights any more than you should let anyone take your guns out of your bloody dead hand.

Read your dictionary...;

Main Entry:treason
Pronunciation:*tr*-z*n
Function:noun
Etymology:Middle English tresoun, from Old French traison, from Latin tradition-, traditio act of handing over, from tradere to hand over, betray more at TRAITOR
Date:13th century

1 : the betrayal of a trust : TREACHERY
2 : the offense of attempting by overt acts to overthrow the government of the state to which the offender owes allegiance or to kill or personally injure the sovereign or the sovereign's family

So how do you equate such acts of treason with "taking away YOUR rights"? What a stretch --- even if you werk for the alNewYork Times!!
And yes, I care not who leaked the info, outside of them needing to be alongside the publisher of those secrets leaked.

From SW Florida, A proud member of iboats since March 25,2001
The old me

 

[12Footer]

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HINT:
They need to turn the EDIT feature back on!!!!
Who's bright idea was it to shut that off? Talk about clutter -- this place is fexing to get messy (judgin by the way I type, let-alone, anyone else)...
Sorry, Tex..Where were we?

Careful what you ask for their 12 ft. You might hit Rove or do you include the VP who told the messager to leak the information.

Neither has didly to do with treason, but the media sources who pump this sort of caustic bilge into your bloodstream do.

Newspaper telling story is not treason. Read the Constitution. You may not take away my rights any more than you should let anyone take your guns out of your bloody dead hand.

Constitution? you mean it don't "breathe" all of a sudden?


Read your dictionary...;

Main Entry:treason
Pronunciation:*tr*-z*n
Function:noun
Etymology:Middle English tresoun, from Old French traison, from Latin tradition-, traditio act of handing over, from tradere to hand over, betray more at TRAITOR
Date:13th century

1 : the betrayal of a trust : TREACHERY
2 : the offense of attempting by overt acts to overthrow the government of the state to which the offender owes allegiance or to kill or personally injure the sovereign or the sovereign's family

So how do you equate such acts of treason with "taking away YOUR rights"? What a stretch --- even if you werk for the alNewYork Times!!
And yes, I care not who leaked the info, outside of them needing to be alongside the publisher of those secrets leaked.



From SW Florida, A proud member of iboats since March 25,2001
The old me

 

[POINTER94]

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Freedom of the press, and why this is a misnomer.

http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110008585

 

[CJY]

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Tic tic tic, that is the sound of time counting down as we approach November. I bet there are many career republicans that are beginning to search for alternative work as we speak. Wow, the smart ones abandoned ship long ago, did they not? I have never seen one Prez destroy so many careers.

 

[12Footer]

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Try to stay on-topic if possible, CJY. Derailments are very distracting.

Why not start another thread on the subject of how much you hate Bush, your predictions on upcomming election outcomes, and people who run from the battlefield when the going gets tough?
From SW Florida, A proud member of iboats since March 25,2001
The old me

 

[CJY]

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I apologize if you were that easily distracted 12. I will keep you in mind when I post. However, I will continue to post my thoughts on a topic as you are free to do. Thanks though, for trying to limit my freedom to speak my mind here in the USA. Hmmm, that is what you are also saying to the NY Times. How ironic. You must be feeling panic knowing you are powerless to stop the freedoms we all enjoy in America.

However, I did not feel it was off topic. Let me try to explain it to you. My point in regard to the topic is that the republicans are grasping at straws by trying to ignite a fire where there is very little fuel. It is going to cost many of them their jobs.This news is not "assisting Al Qaeda." Did you read those last two sentences? They are directly related to my previous post and the topic. Money tracing is old news. We all knew of it already. W TOLD US HIMSELF. Most Americans, after a term and a half are seeing through the smoke and mirrors. Fan the fire all you like 12, it is too late. Of course, that's just my opinion. You call it a derailment because you fear my words may become reality.

See, I guess it is possible for me to stay on task while enjoying my freedom. You are telling me how I should interpret a post? Unbelievable 12, you tried to take away my freedom. Freedom that is given to me through brave men and women of our armed forces. To sum it up, you say you support the armed forces, while at the same time tell me not to enjoy the freedom they are giving their lives for? Again, ironic.

By the way, I do not "hate" W. I think he is doing everything in his power to give the congress and whitehouse back to the democrats.

12, feel free to interpret and post as you wish. This is the USA....for all Americans, including those that do not consider themselves republican.

 

[12Footer]

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Ahh i hit a nerve! I love it. You have yet to successfuly derail this thgread because I'll bring it back on-topic every time. I only ,made the sugestion that you post on-topiuc because you hatered and rage against the machine are purely off-topic.
So alqeuda lost another battle in spite of another leak to your operatives in the media. I derive great pleasure in informing you that another terrorist plot was uncovered and the principle players apprehended -- this in spite of the media's effort to blow the cover of Israeli and American intelligence. One thing the enemy failed to learn before printing the whole story tho, was how deep the moles were (because this leak is over one year old)..
What we patriots understand that the enemy does not ,is that the media is powerless to inform our enemy, as long as leaks are plugged. Also, you don't understand the equality we hold towards the leakers and the informants in the media. They should both be set before the firing squad. They are both traitors.
The leakers need to be found and dealt with. I don't care if it IS Cheney as some here wish.And what you might not realise is, that when it comes to our natonal security, there is NO difference between Cheney or dingy harry regarding confidence. Whoever leaked joins mohamed.

From SW Florida, A proud member of iboats since March 25,2001
The old me

 

[12Footer]

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Ahh...I struck a nerve! I love it. You have yet to successfully derail this thread because I'll bring it back on-topic every time. I only made the sugestion that you post on-topic because your hatered and rage against the machine are purely off-topic.
You should keep your posts on topic.Want to speek freely? Please do, but do so with a modicum of internet protocol -- or not. Some folks just self-centered like that.

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So alqeuda lost another battle in spite of another leak to your operatives in the media. I derive great pleasure in informing you that another terrorist plot was uncovered and the principle players apprehended -- this in spite of the media's effort to blow the cover of Israeli and American intelligence. One thing the enemy failed to learn before printing the whole story tho, was how deep the moles were (because this leak is over one year old)..
What we patriots understand that the enemy does not ,is that the media is powerless to inform our enemy, as long as leaks are plugged. Also, you don't understand the equality we hold towards the leakers and the informants in the media. They should both be set before the firing squad. They are both traitors.
The leakers need to be found and dealt with. I don't care if it IS Cheney as some here wish.And what you might not realise is, that when it comes to our natonal security, there is NO difference between Cheney or dingy harry regarding confidence. Whoever leaked joins mohamed.

From SW Florida, A proud member of iboats since March 25,2001
The old me

From SW Florida, A proud member of iboats since March 25,2001
The old me

 

[CJY]

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12 said;

"Ah, I struck a nerve! I love it."

By the way, your very first statement was "off-topic." I thought you claimed you would brinmg us back on?

12,

Nope, no nerves hit. No hatred or rage either. Keep grasping.d

12, you said;

"Whoever leaked joins mohamed."

Fair enough, but why are they not looking for him/her??? I will tell you why, they don't want more bad publicity. Besides, they don't care. They only want the focus to be on the Times. Telling me they are traitors is nothing more than hot air if they never intend to find them.

No, I am not self-centered. I just choose to post my thoughts as I feel proper, as do you. By the way, I think that comment you made regarding me being self-centered was entirely "off-topic". Thanks for not becoming derailed.d You did so with no regard for "modicum of internet protocol". It, in itself, is a derailment to tell another iboater their post is off-topic. I think it's funny though, you wish to portray yourself as being above all you claim to despise. Yet, you are regularly found crawling below those you constantly throw meaningless Limpisms toward.

You do fit the "do as I say, not as I do" mold rather nicely 12.

Again, thanks for bringing this back on track. You are doing a wonderful job.

 

[12Footer]

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---------------------Please Turn The "Edit" Feature Back On.-------------------- I'm going even MORE insane
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After re-reading my previous post, I owe you an appology. I meant that in only as your acts consider others here, and besides -- I aint the internet police anyhow.

It's just distracting to get into these spittin contests, but when it has zip to do with the topic, it's worse

. I thought i did a fairly good job of bringing us back on-topic after your derailment attempt, by illustrating yet another terrorist attack-gone bad, and another classified tool of the coalition DEclassified by your champions in the media ( by media, i refer to alNewYork Times et aljazeeeeeera).
You ignored all that i guess, but given the self-centered flavor of my reply, that is understandable. You axed why they aren't looking for the leaker....I'm sure they are, and might even know who it is. I can't answer that, and do not care to speculate further -- samey-same with why they kept WMD discoveries classified for all this time. I can only predict "something fishy" , incomplete, or damaging to national defense, and hope that as long as it is, that the alNewYorkTimes et al do not get wind of it ,and print it before it's time.
They are , in my opinion, enemy agents and guilty of threatening national security at bare minimum, treason at the other extreme. I'll not defend them like you have, simply because i now DO see them as enemy agents worthy only of a firing squad. I personally hope they join their masters...Let's see... 3400 alNYTimes employees-times-72 vigins...Ol Satan is going to holding one heck of a BBQ !!

I'll try to send them down some igauna (tree chicken, i think the mexicans call it). They gotta dress it out themselves.And they'll need to be carefull to clean the shot out it first too.

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From SW Florida, A proud member of iboats since March 25,2001
The old me