offshore capable boat?

dpoff

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Re: offshore capable boat?

Something to consider, if your fuel tank has a vee shaped bottom like mine does... The last half of fuel on the fuel gauge won`t last as long as the first half. I made that mistake ONCE.
 

Home Cookin'

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Re: offshore capable boat?

well, my numbers in my post above are off the chart when Yamaha tested my same boat model with my same engine. Their prop was close but not exact. My bottom is painted; they had a T-top. (21' deep V center console, 80 gallon tank, 150 2 stroke carb). I don't know how my MPG and GPH compares at all; no true way to measure, so I use this info as "close enough." The RPM/MPH tested by tach and GPS is pretty close even though my prop was a little different from the test prop. In the last few weeks I have been trying props and charting the results, and just settled on one that give me good numbers but I can't speak to consumption. Since I go all over the bay and rivers, I have fuel supplies around if needed, unlike going offshore.

My guess is that an improper prop, over or under, hurts your fuel efficiency. If you are under propped, it's like spinning your wheels or like a low gear ratio (why my old landcruiser got bad mileage). If you are over propped you are straining, like pulling a trailer or a load of firewood in a pick-up. But there the analogy between boats and cars dies, b/c cars don't plane. Maybe "overdrive" is the closest equivalent.
 

maui al

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I beg to ask the question, is it really worth it to 40 miles off shore to catch more/bigger or different fish? Pick your days, stay in shore and enjoy what there is to catch. If there is no fish to catch inshore that you want to catch then make friends with people who have bigger boats and let them be responsible for your well being. Or as someone else said just buy a bigger safer boat for those conditions.
 

smokeonthewater

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in my last post I said my compass was nearly worthless..... To clarify... I always knew where land was but I was unable to determine where I was because we were constantly steering to keep the boat from being swamped and thus I was unable to travel in a manner that I could chart....

we were 90% trying to stay alive and 10% trying to get to shore
 

dingbat

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I beg to ask the question, is it really worth it to 40 miles off shore to catch more/bigger or different fish?
The answer is yes.....and for the same reason people climb mountains and people jump out of perfectly good airplanes. Becouse they can. :D:D
 

sasto

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The answer is yes.....and for the same reason people climb mountains and people jump out of perfectly good airplanes. Becouse they can. :D:D

Now that's not funny at all :).....but......how true it is, 'cauce they can, and will....for a thrill.

When I was a kid, I thought the roller coaster was gonna' kill me. Still went back for more.

That said. There has been everything from canoes to freighters to mighty ships go down in a lake or an ocean. You just never know, none of us are totally safe......no matter how prepaired we are or what size boat we are in.....The choice is yours.

Heck, we have had Cubanos arrive by ocean....90 miles....by a 1951 Chevy Pickup.
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Fireman431

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In all seriousness....I want that truck. Where can I get it?
 

Chris1956

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Smoke, I have seen conditions where the GPS would register 40* degrees off course because of the roughness of the ocean. It would never lock in, for some reason, and it was a good GPS umit with a differential capability.

I ended up taking a bearing on the compass at idle speed, and then bringing the boat to a cruise and watching the swing of the compass, and using the center of the compass swing as aproximate true course. It was effective in that we did find Jones Inlet.
 

smokeonthewater

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That night sure would have been better if we'd had enough horsepower to climb a wave without falling off and getting slammed from the stern We would spend a couple seconds pointed S and then a few seconds E then back S and so on. The course we needed to take was SSW. We were in seas that were way too big for our boat with a barely running engine. We were also dealing with a heavy rain and high wind at night so almost no visibility.... it was not fun. I fully expected to spend the night swimming in the breakers and the next day watching for helicopters. Thankfully that didn't happen. When the storms finally ended around 5 am we just headed S and found a light on shore.... Wound up at the copper kettle marina in Lorain OH.... Slept a couple hours till the marina opened. Bought a fuel filter, gassed up and made it home in a couple hours.

It's hard for people to grasp just how crappy it can be till it happens.... As 'land lubbers' we grow up dealing with storms with asphalt under rubber tires.... no matter how bad the storm the road is always there and smooth.... When the "road" is an angry sea the game is totally different.
 

oldfordcrap

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i doubt you will get 2mpg on a rough ocean with a 31 yr old 200 hp you need lots more gas!!!!!!
 

Brockie

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"It will not be a question of "can you handle it", but rather "will you handle it". You will also be responsible for your entire crew, so you better be damn sure you are the type that can handle "pucker" situations knowledgeably and without panic."

Spot on advice - you cannot pull over to the shoulder and wait for the weather to pass by.

My scariest moment (so far) was 4 miles out in a lake, while trying to make a 10 mile crossing in an 18ft half cab. The owner gave up and my friend had to take over the wheel. There was no order to the waves - Crests and holes were coming from every direction, and as fresh water gives less bouyancy than salt the boat did not lift as positively to the slop, with nearby crests 3-4 ft higher than the bow or transom. Scarey stuff.
 

sasto

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In all seriousness....I want that truck. Where can I get it?

I'm with you on that! The Coast Guard sank it, claimed to be hazardous. Cubans have attempted the ride in refridgerators, bathtubs, surfboards........If it floats they will take it to sea out over 40 miles anyday.
 

Chris1956

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You guys get the fact that the Cubans were desperate to escape Cuba? When I go fishing, I am not nearly desperate enough to take the truck, bathtub, fridge, or surfboard.
 

Eyeman

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That night sure would have been better if we'd had enough horsepower to climb a wave without falling off and getting slammed from the stern We would spend a couple seconds pointed S and then a few seconds E then back S and so on. The course we needed to take was SSW. We were in seas that were way too big for our boat with a barely running engine. We were also dealing with a heavy rain and high wind at night so almost no visibility.... it was not fun. I fully expected to spend the night swimming in the breakers and the next day watching for helicopters. Thankfully that didn't happen. When the storms finally ended around 5 am we just headed S and found a light on shore.... Wound up at the copper kettle marina in Lorain OH.... Slept a couple hours till the marina opened. Bought a fuel filter, gassed up and made it home in a couple hours.

It's hard for people to grasp just how crappy it can be till it happens.... As 'land lubbers' we grow up dealing with storms with asphalt under rubber tires.... no matter how bad the storm the road is always there and smooth.... When the "road" is an angry sea the game is totally different.

Glad to hear you made it. A half dead motor, big waves and a blow in the wrong direction on Lake Erie is scary stuff. She turns so quickly, the chop is so short/steep and the wave direction can make no sense. That first wave over the bow, then up and over the windshield knocking the first mate to the deck really fires up the flight or fight response. Weather, weather, weather. Listen, learn, continue to listen and believe what they are telling you. I've been out in small craft advisories that were nothing and I've also been out when the reports were good and things go bad. Monitor that weather and listen to the other captains.
 

sea pig

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with that gas eatin motor figure 2mpg on a nice day 60 miles round trip with reserve leftover for bad seas
 

sasto

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You guys get the fact that the Cubans were desperate to escape Cuba? When I go fishing, I am not nearly desperate enough to take the truck, bathtub, fridge, or surfboard.

How true you are, Chris..... Having been to Cuba, Haiti and Dominican Republic many times, I understand. My post was not ment to degrade anybody, including the OP.

I have taken a surfboard fishing many times. In the past we would paddle out several hundred yards and drop a big chunk of an old fish, hook, and sinker. Paddle back to our reel on the beach, and hope for a big shark.

My first fishing boat was a dug out maple log. She rolled over like a log would. Took me years to figure out why. :facepalm:

We only live once. There have been many times I would have taken a fridge fishing if I thought it would catch fish. :D
 
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