Oil Coated Plugs?

turtle1173

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Hi all,<br /><br /> I was wondering if maybe someone could explain to me how spark plugs get coated with oil and foul out. I am having a problem with this and would appreciate any help.<br /><br />Thank you,<br /><br />Shane
 
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DJ

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Re: Oil Coated Plugs?

Turtle,<br /><br />What kind of engine, use?
 

Fouled Plug

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Re: Oil Coated Plugs?

In a 2 stroke, overly rich fuel/oil mix, wrong heat range plug, or extended slow speed operation will foul plugs. They just don't get hot enough to burn off deposits. In 4 strokes, oil blow-by caused by worn piston rings can cause oil fouling. In that case, it's re ring/rebuild time.
 

turtle1173

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Re: Oil Coated Plugs?

Sorry for not posting my engine type. It is a 1975 55 HP Chrysler. I'm using a 50:1 oil/gas mixture. I just replaced the spark plugs also. Maybe I should point out that the engine had not been run for 7 years. I had the carb cleaned and replaced the plugs. I have run the engine 3 times (at the lake) over the past 2 weeks. All three times the engine has been missing periodically. Today was by far the worst however. I pulled the plugs twice while out on the lake and they were covered. I cleaned them off and put them back. Then it would run good for a few minutes, then back to missing. Any suggestions?<br /><br />Thanks,<br /><br />Shane
 

12Footer

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Re: Oil Coated Plugs?

You are running rich,is my best guess.<br />With a warm engine, clean plugs, fast idle...<br />Turn the mxture screw in 1/8 turn.Wait 10 seconds. Repeat 1/8 turn at a time until engine runs rough. Make a mental note of ths setting(this will be the lean point).<br /> Now,turn back out 1/8 turn at a time (waiting the 10 second interval),until it again runs rough. (This will be the rich point). <br />Turn it back in to the point halfway between rough idle lean and rough idle rich. It should burn cleaner. But also note this engine will run dirty anyway by design.It helps to use a high grade of oil too. WalMart's Supertech or Quicksilver premium are two good oils. Only use 87Octane. 93octane will burn slower,and foul earlier.<br />Ask someone with a book for the recommended plug.Stick with that recommendation,as changing to a hotter plug can damage the pistons.<br />The Chrysler and Force motors require frequent decarbing also.Plugs should last 60-80hours, depending on throttle habits (60 or less for mainly idling,80 or so for mainly cruising throttle).<br />One other thing to check is the recirculation hose for blockages or holes. It runs from the reed box,behind the carb, to a fitting on the starboard side of the block,behind or near the fuel pump.<br />Make sure yur engine has good compression too.<br />Hope this helps.
 

turtle1173

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Re: Oil Coated Plugs?

12footer,<br /><br /> I sure appreciate your input. Where is the mixture screw? Where abouts on the carb would it be? I am using a high grade oil. One thing I am definitely doing wrong is the gas I use. The first time I had it out, I ran 89 octane. It ran the best (out of 3 times) the first time. The second time out I refilled the tank with 92 octane (I was told it burned cooler, which was better) :rolleyes: I had more problems that time and then today it was noticably worse (although I had not refilled the tank).<br /><br /> One thing I noticed on Wednesday (2nd time out). I ran the engine (in fast idle) for about 15 minutes. I pulled the plugs after this time and I noticed how cool the engine seemed. The plugs were not that hot (just warm) and the engine itself I could put my hands on indefinitely (it was warm but that was it). I thought at the time this was odd. Could that be from running too high of an octane????<br /><br /> I inquired about the right plugs awhile back and have acquired them, so that should not be a problem.<br /><br /> How do I decarb? Is this taking the carbon out of the cylinders? I know nothing about this but I have noticed small particles on the plugs when I pull them out (in amongst the oil).<br /><br />Thanks for all your help (but please help more if you can) :) <br /><br />Shane
 

norman158

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Re: Oil Coated Plugs?

this motor have a thermostat in it? if so check its opening temp sounds like its running to cold
 

turtle1173

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Re: Oil Coated Plugs?

I'm sure my engine does have a thermostat. Would it be possible for it to have gone out and that is causing problems?<br /><br /> Also, what kind of Decarb can I use for this engine? Can I use what's available for Mercury and Yamaha motors or is that particular to those motors?<br /><br />Thanks,<br /><br />Shane
 

Fouled Plug

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Re: Oil Coated Plugs?

If the thermostat is stuck open, you could be running too cool. As for decarb, it's not brand-specific. I've had excellent results for Yamaha's Ring Free, and a product called SeaFoam, both of which are added to the fuel and cleans as it runs. SeaFoam also comes in a spray can, as does Mercury's Power Tune and other brands. The sprays are "fogged" into a running motor, then shut down to soak. My Yammy dealer says run a shock treat of Ring Free in the fuel tank, then a lower maintenance dose (listed on label) to keep the crud away. Carbon is a real issue, especially in Chrysler/Forces, so it's money well spent in my opinion. Your mileage may vary. For what it's worth, check the thermostat and mixture to eliminate problems there and decarb as a preventative maintenance. Good luck! :D
 

Yepblaze

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Re: Oil Coated Plugs?

Geeeez it's winter. Ya gotta choke the **** out of it just to keep it running. Run it and the plugs will probably clear.
 
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