ok, newer car for daughter, gotta have airbags, decent economy and reliable

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Maybe a few yrs old Camry? Cherokee(loved mine), some ideas would be great, Thanks and Merry Xmas guys! :)
 

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Re: ok, newer car for daughter, gotta have airbags, decent economy and reliable

That's a hard question to answer without more info!
If you're looking at a new(er) car with all safety features at reasonable cost with a good reputation and good warranty- then check out Hyundai.
 

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Re: ok, newer car for daughter, gotta have airbags, decent economy and reliable

I would go with a car rather than an SUV . . . the highway statistics favor cars.

Many/most cars have the 6 airbags now. I would check out the American brands, or at least the ones made in America.
 

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Re: ok, newer car for daughter, gotta have airbags, decent economy and reliable

Hyundai are not great cars. Cheap: yes, good: no, adaquate: possibly.. Interior is cheesy and does not hold up well.. and the car does not fair well either. My dad has an '08 Elantra, 90k miles. Interior looks 10 years old, car rattles, creeks and groans. Struts are shot and the alarm system is malfunctioning, going off when it chooses to.

Subaru is a far better car, with IIRC all of their models getting IIHS top picks for 2012. The Legacy and Outback are made in Lafayette Indiana. According to Wiki, the Toyota Camry is made there also.
 

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Re: ok, newer car for daughter, gotta have airbags, decent economy and reliable

something safe affordable`and dependable - I'll research some, Merry Christmas guys!! :)
 

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Re: ok, newer car for daughter, gotta have airbags, decent economy and reliable

Hyundai are not great cars. Cheap: yes, good: no, adaquate: possibly.. Interior is cheesy and does not hold up well.. and the car does not fair well either. My dad has an '08 Elantra, 90k miles. Interior looks 10 years old, car rattles, creeks and groans. Struts are shot and the alarm system is malfunctioning, going off when it chooses to.

Subaru is a far better car, with IIRC all of their models getting IIHS top picks for 2012. The Legacy and Outback are made in Lafayette Indiana. According to Wiki, the Toyota Camry is made there also.

Meh - your dad must have gotten a bad one. Kia/Hyundai are some of the nicest, most reliable and economical cars you can buy and have great crash ratings. Sit in my wifes 2011 Optima and tell me how much they suck - Don't get me started on Subarus ;)
 

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Re: ok, newer car for daughter, gotta have airbags, decent economy and reliable

Another recommendation for Subies. We have several in the family and all are extremely reliable, economical and safe. They last forever as well. 200,000 miles on a couple. Best AWD system available.
 
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Re: ok, newer car for daughter, gotta have airbags, decent economy and reliable

Meh - your dad must have gotten a bad one. Kia/Hyundai are some of the nicest, most reliable and economical cars you can buy and have great crash ratings. Sit in my wifes 2011 Optima and tell me how much they suck - Don't get me started on Subarus ;)


^^^X2. I was hoping someone would jump in and defend Hyundai :)
I drove my 1996 Elantra over 200,000 miles and engine/trannie never had a single problem. Sold it after 12 years with no rust and everything working correctly!
 

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Re: ok, newer car for daughter, gotta have airbags, decent economy and reliable

2000-2005 Impalas with 3.4s, anti-lock brakes, and traction control. Over 20mpg in town, 33 on the flat highways of IL at 72mph. I can't recommend them enough. I have driven 5 of them for a total of 300,000+ miles, and warped rear brake rotors are the only real trouble I ever had. And that was solved by changing the factory rear pads, to the second cheapest pads at Autozone/O-Reilly ($30).
 

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Re: ok, newer car for daughter, gotta have airbags, decent economy and reliable

Another recommendation for Subies. We have several in the family and all are extremely reliable, economical and safe. They last forever as well. 200,000 miles on a couple. Best AWD system available.

I hear ya JB, I'm thinkin a turbo coupe for ME!!! :)
 

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Re: ok, newer car for daughter, gotta have airbags, decent economy and reliable

My daughter (also 23) got herself a Volvo S60 last year ('02 I think). I had a mechanic-friend check it over and do any needed maintenence. So far it's been reliable and the safety is top-notch. It's also very comfortable and handles well.
So far she's invested $4600 (3600 car, 600 service 400 tires).
 

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Re: ok, newer car for daughter, gotta have airbags, decent economy and reliable

I guess that the truth is that all modern cars are so much better than 20-30 years ago that we more mature folk have a hard time believing it.
 

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Re: ok, newer car for daughter, gotta have airbags, decent economy and reliable

Another recommendation for Subies. We have several in the family and all are extremely reliable, economical and safe. They last forever as well. 200,000 miles on a couple. Best AWD system available.

I've had 3, currently have 2. They have been very good, but there are a couple of glitches, head gaskets and radiators. Depending on the year the head gaskets can go at any time after around 100k, my daughters went at 190,000, then at 230,000 the radiator blew apart and they had to be done again. The car still drives very well and is solid.

I should have known about the possibility of the radiator issue when my wife?s 05 turbo blew its apart at around 100,000 and this required the heads to be done.

The radiator is multi pieces with plastic bonded to the aluminum, if the bond fails, and it can at any time, there is little to no warning before the head gaskets blow.
 

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Re: ok, newer car for daughter, gotta have airbags, decent economy and reliable

Meh - your dad must have gotten a bad one. Kia/Hyundai are some of the nicest, most reliable and economical cars you can buy and have great crash ratings. Sit in my wifes 2011 Optima and tell me how much they suck - Don't get me started on Subarus ;)

Don't think it was a bad one. I'v looked at others from 2008 and they are just as bad or worse ( All were Elantra's ). I know it was 1st year of that 'new' design, but I know they did another new design for 2010, but still, I'm not sold on Hyundia/Kia except their 'old' styles. I know people with '99-2002ish Kia/ Hyundai's and they have well over 150k and run strong.. Actually my dad had a 2001 Sephia 5spd, he drove it trouble free for 100k miles, and sold it to my brother who took it to 200k before junking it because there was not much car left due to the road salt.
 

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Re: ok, newer car for daughter, gotta have airbags, decent economy and reliable

^^^X2. I was hoping someone would jump in and defend Hyundai :)
I drove my 1996 Elantra over 200,000 miles and engine/trannie never had a single problem. Sold it after 12 years with no rust and everything working correctly!

Those old cars are dead reliable. I think they ran the same running gear/ chassis into like 2003. Some of them had electrical glitches like window motors blowing fuses, but for them being one of the cheapest new cars you could buy, they can still be a deal for beater transportation. $800-1000 can buy a nicer one where I live. More for newer, but still they were great cars. Both the Hyundai and Kia versions.
 

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Re: ok, newer car for daughter, gotta have airbags, decent economy and reliable

Don't think it was a bad one. I'v looked at others from 2008 and they are just as bad or worse ( All were Elantra's ). I know it was 1st year of that 'new' design, but I know they did another new design for 2010, but still, I'm not sold on Hyundia/Kia except their 'old' styles. I know people with '99-2002ish Kia/ Hyundai's and they have well over 150k and run strong.. Actually my dad had a 2001 Sephia 5spd, he drove it trouble free for 100k miles, and sold it to my brother who took it to 200k before junking it because there was not much car left due to the road salt.

We've had an elantra, Sorrento, Spectra5, Optima and my mom has a pair of Souls. Never a problem with any of them. Now subarus on the other hand - we had 2 and I'd never purchase one again unless I had a sack full of money for repairs ;)
 

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Re: ok, newer car for daughter, gotta have airbags, decent economy and reliable

Young people need good transportation, and parents need cars/truck that are as trouble free as possible. Life dealing with youngsters is full of frustrations, and a car doesn't need to be just another frustration.

I worked for a major auto manufacturer for 24 years, and I'm a Car Guy. I used to see more auto deals in a week than most auto salesmen would see in a career. Take this to the bank:

The best used cars that are affordable are also some of the best sellers: Honda Civic, Honda Accord, Toyota Corolla, Toyota Camry, Ford Taurus. For a young man, you could also include Ford Rangers (4 cyl/5 speed) and Chevy S-10's. A Ford Explorer 6 cyl. is another good choice, but fuel mileage is a little lower than the cars.

Most of these vehicles pull a premium price on the used market, however they're very trouble free and not frustrating to own. If you ever have any major mechanical problem, used parts are easily available in any major auto salvage yard--both mechanical and body parts.

There are many other plenty good cars on the retail market. Subaru's, Kia's, Hyundai's and even Volkswagens simply don't have a good dealer base outside of larger cities to obtain parts and service from. And there are very, very few used parts available for these cars--in case you have a blown engine or tranny. While used prices of these vehicles may be lower, the frustration factor could be high and repairs very expensive.

I used to average 1000 miles a week on my company cars, and I went through 3 cars (315K miles) and never had a warranty claim.
My Lexus IS250 has 70K and has only had brakes. My SuperDuty Diesel is 10 years old and never had a warranty claim. My Honda Civic SI went 2 years and 56K miles without a warranty claim--until it was totaled by my daughter's boyfriend. Cars are getting better. You've just got to choose your brands wisely if you want a more pleasant ownership experience.
 
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