old engine serial numbers

soulsalvation

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1975 233hp 351cu Ford Mercruiser (Cleveland) 2 barrel carburetor that has a serial number that is no longer usable when ordering. i found a tiny plate that had a serial number on it but it was useless for ordering parts. is there a way to get serial numbers that may work? thanks to all who reply.
 

soulsalvation

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I own a 1975 Fiberform Bermuda Flyer with a 351cu 233hp 2 barrel Ford Cleveland Mercruiser
that for a long time the serial number eluded me until I found this plate. It’s a serial number of some sort but is it an engine number? If anyone out there has a similar boat to mine can you let me know what this might be ? Thank you 8C112A89-4820-45BC-AAA9-0DCFB5F1147F.jpeg
 

Bondo

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Ayuh,...... Yer motor is a Windsor,......
'n ya, that's the serial number,.....
 

matt167

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The old Ford stuff they really won't work on usually so it's not surprising.

The serial number won't do much for you as far as that goes. You have a 351W, so there isn't much available
 

achris

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Thanks Bondo for the info. Getting harder to get parts especially when marinas can’t be bothered to investigate a bit.
Merc last used a Ford engine way back in 1977. That makes that engine/drive AT LEAST 44 years old. Instead of trying to resurrect it, let it die gracefully, and re-power with something from THIS century.

As a dealer, we wouldn't touch anything more than about 20 years old. Too many 'down the track' problems. Example, you bring that in and ask for a carburetor clean out. I agree and do the job, charge you parts and about 3 hours labour (includes test running the engine in a test tank). A week (or a month, or 6 months) later you're back with 'it's not running right, you must have done something'. I investigate and find it's a failing fuel pump. Nothing I touched, was asked to touch, and had no reason to touch, but you think it was my fault, and in the eyes of the law it was, because I was the last to work on the engine... I now have to repair your failed fuel pump free of charge, and I get a bad rap from you to your mates. Bad reputations are very hard to erase or tell someone that it wasn't me, it was just that the customer (you) didn't understand that it was just one of those things. And as an engine gets older, 'those things' happen more and more, it's the second law of thermodynamics. Machines get old and more and more things fails on them, regardless of how much we try to stop that. It's just a fact of physics.

TL;DR, it's too old, update to a (much) newer model.

Chris........
 

1960 Starflite

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Achris, agreed. This is my 73 year old boat 😊 Still runs but not any mechanics to work on it.
 

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soulsalvation

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Merc last used a Ford engine way back in 1977. That makes that engine/drive AT LEAST 44 years old. Instead of trying to resurrect it, let it die gracefully, and re-power with something from THIS century.

As a dealer, we wouldn't touch anything more than about 20 years old. Too many 'down the track' problems. Example, you bring that in and ask for a carburetor clean out. I agree and do the job, charge you parts and about 3 hours labour (includes test running the engine in a test tank). A week (or a month, or 6 months) later you're back with 'it's not running right, you must have done something'. I investigate and find it's a failing fuel pump. Nothing I touched, was asked to touch, and had no reason to touch, but you think it was my fault, and in the eyes of the law it was, because I was the last to work on the engine... I now have to repair your failed fuel pump free of charge, and I get a bad rap from you to your mates. Bad reputations are very hard to erase or tell someone that it wasn't me, it was just that the customer (you) didn't understand that it was just one of those things. And as an engine gets older, 'those things' happen more and more, it's the second law of thermodynamics. Machines get old and more and more things fails on them, regardless of how much we try to stop that. It's just a fact of physics.

TL;DR, it's too old, update to a (much) newer model.

Chris........
Thanks again Chris for replying. I wholeheartedly agree everything has it’s time including humans we grow old and it’s one thing after another. The first major engine problem will see her out to pasture....in the meantime I am still enjoying her as my family vacations revolved around this machine and she became part of the family. Sentimental we are but we are based in reality. This old boat has cost me less than a $1000 in repairs in the last five years. Pretty good when you consider her age. BTW we do own a pontoon as well but that doesn’t handle huge water like this old cruiser. We’ll be exclusively pontooning when she’s done. Thanks for your input. Take care
 
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