OMC 3.0 Piston Slap? a common problem?

89cruisers

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Ive posted a few times but havent heard anything yet, I foumd this thread http://forums.iboats.com/showthread.php?t=301184 which says piston slap was a common occurrence on a OMC 3.0, does anyone know if this indeed is true, my symptoms are a knocking at idle, but nothing bad past like 1500, the knocking does sound like a rod knock, just not as loud. If there is anyone that can spread some light on this it would be great since this engine has less than 400 hours on it, oil changed every season
 

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Re: OMC 3.0 Piston Slap? a common problem?

Piston slap does happen and in many cases the engine will still live a long happy life. It can be caused by wear (high hours), overheating the engine which can collapse the piston skirts, or perhaps a skirt has broken off. To locate the cylinder(s) with the problem, pull one spark plug wire at a time. The noise will go away on a non-firing cylinder. I assume the engine does indeed have good oil pressure at idle and that you are not hearing timing gear noise or lifter noise.
 

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Re: OMC 3.0 Piston Slap? a common problem?

Piston slap is common with any inline motor since the pistons have a tendency to rock back and forth in the cylinder especially if they have small skirts. As opposed to a v-6 or 8 engine where pistons are laying against the cylinder wall. Most piston slap lessons as the engine reaches temp since the metals are expanding. I wouldn't worry about as long as you have good oil pressure.
 

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Re: OMC 3.0 Piston Slap? a common problem?

There is good oil pressure, and the noise does not go away when it warms up, but I want to make sure this is not a rod bearing gone bad, which is what it sounds like except for the fact that it is more louder at idle
 

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Re: OMC 3.0 Piston Slap? a common problem?

Piston slap is common with any inline motor since the pistons have a tendency to rock back and forth in the cylinder especially if they have small skirts. As opposed to a v-6 or 8 engine where pistons are laying against the cylinder wall. Most piston slap lessons as the engine reaches temp since the metals are expanding. I wouldn't worry about as long as you have good oil pressure.

Actually late model GM v-8 engines are really bad for piston slap. So bad in fact that there are several tsb's out on it along with warranties being increased to concerned customers to alleviate concerns about premature engine failure. Pistons laying against the cylinder wall have nothing to do with it.
 

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Re: OMC 3.0 Piston Slap? a common problem?

Actually late model GM v-8 engines are really bad for piston slap. So bad in fact that there are several tsb's out on it along with warranties being increased to concerned customers to alleviate concerns about premature engine failure. Pistons laying against the cylinder wall have nothing to do with it.

Funny you should mention that because my 2000 LS1 Camaro has had piston slap since 38k miles but generally the v style engine are not prone to have it. There are always exceptions such as the case of my v-8. I think they narrowed it down to the piston skirts are very short as to save on weight and therefore you get the knock. But she runs like a raped ape...at 90k now
 

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Re: OMC 3.0 Piston Slap? a common problem?

Cylinder configuration doesn't have a dang thing to with piston slap; in fact when a V8 is running, one banks thrust is on the TOP side of the bore (1-3-5-7 on a Chev, 5-6-7-8 on Ford, STD rotation)
 

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Re: OMC 3.0 Piston Slap? a common problem?

Ok guys explain to us why he has piston slap and while your at it why does my LS1 have piston slap, Why did my 96 f150 with 300ci inline 6 have it. Why why why..... Let the enlightenment begin.
 

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Re: OMC 3.0 Piston Slap? a common problem?

Manufacturers use all sorts of techniques to reduce friction and raise fuel economy. applying a coating to pistons is just one of those techniques. Any coating takes up space so if that coating wears off a bit the piston to bore clearance opens a tad and during warm up an engine can exhibit piston slap. My Yukon with 111,000 slaps for about 20 seconds from about 30 seconds after cold startup. It then quits almost immediately. It uses no oil and is used as a tow vehicle.

I already covered several reasons for piston slap but additional reasons are an engine that may have been assembled with a combination of high-limit and low-limit parts. That means pistons at the small end of the diameter tolerance were installed in a block bored to the high end of the diameter tolerance. It is called a build-up of tolerances and applies to anything mechanical. It is the thrust of the piston against the cylinder wall as the piston fires that causes the slap and it makes no difference whether an engine is a pancake design, in-line, 60 degree or 90 degree "V". The only time the piston does not have side thrust is when it sits exactly at TDC or BDC which is when the piston, rod, and crank throw are all perfectly in alignment.
 

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Re: OMC 3.0 Piston Slap? a common problem?

I'd cut a filter and look in the pleats... to gain some peace of mind about the bearing possibility... if no bearing material in the filter - I'd just run it.
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89cruisers

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Re: OMC 3.0 Piston Slap? a common problem?

alright thanks, I will probably do that tomorrow and see, if it went away when warm I wouldn't be worried about it, but it stays when warm
 
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