OMC 305 running well when cold but poorly after heating up.

patrick53

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Hello All,

I have a 1989 Bayliner 2556 with an 240HP V8 OMC 305 and the Cobra outdrive. Over the winter I had a lot of work done on the boat including winterizing service, engine tune up and service, outdrive service, carb rebuilt, new starter. I took the boat out and after about 15 minutes of running at about 3/4 throttle the engine started to bog down. It ran very well up to this point, so I decided to bring it back to the marina and start the troubleshooting process.

I started by inspecting both of the fuel filters, which showed no water in the inline filter and the little filter in the carb was totally clean, but I went ahead and replaced them anyway. Next (after reading some forums) I checked the vent line on the fuel tank, which was totally clear (some people had reported nests being built in them). I pulled the flame arrestor off and and ran the boat and it seems to be getting plenty of fuel. I did notice that in the secondary jets, one side was getting more fuel (a little) than the other, so I puled the carb off and sent it back to the guy who rebuilt it and had him look at it. He check it out and didn't find anything wrong and said a little more fuel on one side is not uncommon.

I took it out about a week later and same thing. Boat ran good for about 10-15 min then serious loss of power. At this point I had a mechanic come out and inspect. He found that the gaskets were bad between the exhaust manifold and risers, so we replaced them. He said that there could be water leaking into the manifold and could cause the problem. We also did a compression test and got good compression in all of the cylinders (spark plugs all looked good too). I am not seeing any increase in temp and verified that I am getting good water flow through the exchanger.

I can run for hours at lower RPM (about 1/4 throttle) with no problem, but I can't get the boat over 3000 RPM and it feels really sluggish past ~1/2 throttle. Also, once the boat is warm, if I back down to idle the engine dies, so I have to rev it up to about 1000 RPM. I am running out of ideas. I am thinking about replacing the carb, but that could is just a shot in the dark.

Anyone ever have this problem or have any ideas?
 

HT32BSX115

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Re: OMC 305 running well when cold but poorly after heating up.

Also, once the boat is warm, if I back down to idle the engine dies, so I have to rev it up to about 1000 RPM. I am running out of ideas. I am thinking about replacing the carb, but that could is just a shot in the dark.
You probably have a fuel delivery problem.

It sounds like a stuck choke.

Once it warms up the choke plate should be fully open.

Other problems can be plugged filter/fuel pickup/vent line, debris in the tank, the list goes on.

Since you had the carb "rebuilt" I would start there.


regards, AND Welcome aboard!!


Rick
 

patrick53

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Re: OMC 305 running well when cold but poorly after heating up.

Thank you. I think if it were debris the fuel tank would have run well after changing the filters (at least for a little bit) . I will try the choke thing and report back.

Also I forgot to mention that I replaced the fuel pump a few weeks ago.

Semper Fi
 

SeanMcl

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Re: OMC 305 running well when cold but poorly after heating up.

Patrick,

Check the fuel pick up tube inside the gas tank, like Rick above me says. They usually have a screen on them, and when they plug up then you get the symptoms you describe. Changing the fuel filters will not help, since the debris plugs up the fuel line before it ever gets to the filters.

If you cant get to the fuel pick up in the tank easily, you can check for vacuum by putting a vacuum gauge in between your fuel pump and gas tank.

http://forums.iboats.com/showthread.php?t=283269 Scroll down to "Testing the fuel pumps ability to create a vacuum". If you have no restrictions in your tank or fuel lines, the vacuum gauge should read about 5 in/hg or less.

I had similar symptoms are you, and it was a plugged fuel pickup. Mine read over 20 in/hg.

Read about my solved fuel issue here if you care to.
http://forums.iboats.com/showthread.php?t=339249
 

patrick53

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Re: OMC 305 running well when cold but poorly after heating up.

Awesome. I will try that this evening. I didn't realize there was another filter in the system.

Does 3 filters between the tank and carb sound a little like overkill?

Thanks for the help
 

Jaysad

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Re: OMC 305 running well when cold but poorly after heating up.

You said you have it tuned up...
Maybe look at the timimg?? It might have been moved?? Just saying maybe...
 

SeanMcl

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Re: OMC 305 running well when cold but poorly after heating up.

Does 3 filters between the tank and carb sound a little like overkill?

Not really, especially if you are counting the screen on the fuel pickup, the inline replaceable fuel filter, and the filter screen in the carb as separate filters. After seeing what is rattling around in my tank even after I did my best to siphon the junk out, I added an additional filter before the fuel pump. It's just a cheap $5 inline automotive style filter, like the original filter is.
 
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